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Rochester Falcons => Satellite Tracking => Topic started by: Kris G. on 08-Oct-10, 11:13:05 PM



Title: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Kris G. on 08-Oct-10, 11:13:05 PM
Just wondering where Quest is, if the transmitter is still working and if any updates are coming soon??


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Shaky on 09-Oct-10, 10:47:51 AM
Just wondering where Quest is, if the transmitter is still working and if any updates are coming soon??

The transmitter is still working, and she is still visiting the power plant daily.


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Kris G. on 10-Nov-10, 07:55:09 PM
We will be getting a Quest update soon?  Nothing since oct. 19th.  Just wondering.....


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Dumpsterkitty on 10-Nov-10, 07:57:50 PM
We will be getting a Quest update soon?  Nothing since oct. 19th.  Just wondering.....

{I think it may be a secret, so don't tell anyone I told you...check her "other maps" up above...  :secret2: }


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Kris G. on 11-Nov-10, 07:33:31 PM
We will be getting a Quest update soon?  Nothing since oct. 19th.  Just wondering.....

{I think it may be a secret, so don't tell anyone I told you...check her "other maps" up above...  :secret2: }

 :o She's always a surprise!  I won't let on that I know..thanks!   :whistle:


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: anneintoronto on 17-Nov-10, 05:26:14 PM
I was over in that area on Sunday, joining some birderwatchers in search of Thickson's Woods' resident Great-Horned Owl.  Quest didn't come by to say hello...  Darn!!  At least the owl was friendly and sat out in the open so we could see him well!  Must send one of my pigeons with a note for Quest next time, so we can arrange to meet!   :wave:

Anne in Toronto


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Kris G. on 17-Nov-10, 07:42:26 PM
Where is Quest these days?  I can't access anything on the "Other maps" to see and wondered if she's still on the east end of the Lake or returned to the TO area.


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Shaky on 17-Nov-10, 08:03:29 PM
The Other Maps link is working again.

Quest was still on the east end of Lake Ontario yesterday.


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Kris G. on 17-Nov-10, 09:25:28 PM
The Other Maps link is working again.

Quest was still on the east end of Lake Ontario yesterday.

Yup, it's working now! Thanks, Shaky!  :2thumbsup:


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Annette on 27-Nov-10, 06:29:29 AM
Quest made on 13th november a trip to Colorado Springs.
A few hours later she was back at Lake Ontario.

http://tinyurl.com/372jwkg


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: loheron on 27-Nov-10, 07:34:05 AM
This is a joke, right? Or is this serious? Larry O

Quest made on 13th november a trip to Colorado_Springs.
A few hours later she was back at Lake Ontario.

http://tinyurl.com/372jwkg


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Paul Hamilton on 27-Nov-10, 08:42:53 AM
That's 1,606 miles or 2584 km in about 2.9 hours.  I think, perhaps, a bad data point?

Paul


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Shaky on 27-Nov-10, 09:18:26 AM
It looks like the wrong set of coordinates were entered. There are always two solutions to the satellite tracking equations. (Remember those quadratic equations in high school algebra?) These two solutions represent the positions on the Earth's spherical surface that intersect the line representing the direction of Quest's signal as determined by the Doppler shift of the orbiting satellites. At least that's how I understand it.

Anyway, there are always two sets of coordinates, and it is usually the first set that is correct. However,  in this case, the 2nd set was correct, but the 1st set was plotted on the map. Quest's correct position was near Prince Edward Point


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: loheron on 27-Nov-10, 04:29:41 PM
Thanks for the explanation. Larry O

It looks like the wrong set of coordinates were entered. There are always two solutions to the satellite tracking equations. (Remember those quadratic equations in high school algebra?) These two solutions represent the positions on the Earth's spherical surface that intersect the line representing the direction of Quest's signal as determined by the Doppler shift of the orbiting satellites. At least that's how I understand it.

Anyway, there are always two sets of coordinates, and it is usually the first set that is correct. However,  in this case, the 2nd set was correct, but the 1st set was plotted on the map. Quest's correct position was near Prince Edward Point


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Lord G on 27-Nov-10, 06:14:11 PM
It looks like the wrong set of coordinates were entered. There are always two solutions to the satellite tracking equations. (Remember those quadratic equations in high school algebra?) These two solutions represent the positions on the Earth's spherical surface that intersect the line representing the direction of Quest's signal as determined by the Doppler shift of the orbiting satellites. At least that's how I understand it.

Anyway, there are always two sets of coordinates, and it is usually the first set that is correct. However,  in this case, the 2nd set was correct, but the 1st set was plotted on the map. Quest's correct position was near Prince Edward Point

Well, my working theory is that Quest was abducted by aliens and taken to their base high in the boreal forests of Colorado...

Unfortunately Argos doesn't provide any guidance as to which of the two sets of coordinates are the correct one for any given data set.  Thus far, it has always been the case that the first set are correct, but context is clearly important when plotting the data...

The data point was pretty obviously bogus. Not only does it show Quest hundreds of miles farther west than she's ever traveled, but the nearest data points both before and after the one plotted were back at PEP.  Those data points had very poor Location Class and quality values associated with them.  But she's been so boring lately with her concentration around Prince Edward Point that I thought I'd spice up the map with a little "zinger" courtesy of Argos.



Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Joyce on 28-Nov-10, 06:47:22 PM
Well, my working theory is that Quest was abducted by aliens and taken to their base high in the boreal forests of Colorado...

:hysterical: Good one Jim.

It's good to see that Quest was back in at the Nuclear Power Plant in Pickering.  I'll bet she is keeping an eye on that place as a nesting site for spring, and checking to make sure no other falcons have the same idea.  Can't blame her for liking her wintering location.  She does love shore birds, and I bet the food is plentiful.

Joyce


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: Dumpsterkitty on 28-Nov-10, 07:57:19 PM
I was just over in the comments section of Imprints & saw this...

Lennoxman says:
November 25, 2010 at 2:26 pm

One of the employees of Lennox Generating Station mentioned that they may have seen Quest near the plant a few days ago.

I'm glad they're still watching out for her!

Ei


Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: loheron on 29-Nov-10, 10:01:45 AM
Now would those be "V" aliens?
God help us if she ever takes up with the "Twilight" folks.
Larry O

It looks like the wrong set of coordinates were entered. There are always two solutions to the satellite tracking equations. (Remember those quadratic equations in high school algebra?) These two solutions represent the positions on the Earth's spherical surface that intersect the line representing the direction of Quest's signal as determined by the Doppler shift of the orbiting satellites. At least that's how I understand it.

Anyway, there are always two sets of coordinates, and it is usually the first set that is correct. However,  in this case, the 2nd set was correct, but the 1st set was plotted on the map. Quest's correct position was near Prince Edward Point

Well, my working theory is that Quest was abducted by aliens and taken to their base high in the boreal forests of Colorado...

Unfortunately Argos doesn't provide any guidance as to which of the two sets of coordinates are the correct one for any given data set.  Thus far, it has always been the case that the first set are correct, but context is clearly important when plotting the data...

The data point was pretty obviously bogus. Not only does it show Quest hundreds of miles farther west than she's ever traveled, but the nearest data points both before and after the one plotted were back at PEP.  Those data points had very poor Location Class and quality values associated with them.  But she's been so boring lately with her concentration around Prince Edward Point that I thought I'd spice up the map with a little "zinger" courtesy of Argos.




Title: Re: Where is Quest these days?
Post by: jeanne on 29-Nov-10, 01:56:22 PM
Given it is Quest, anything is a possibility!  I think she is our stealth falcon!