Title: Bird ID Help, Please
Post by: nwfloridafalconfan on 09-Dec-13, 11:01:57 AM
Photographed by my sister near the beach in Santa Cruz, California.
http://pc.cd/ugF (http://pc.cd/ugF)
http://pc.cd/fgF (http://pc.cd/fgF)
http://pc.cd/GnF (http://pc.cd/GnF)
http://pc.cd/ugF (http://pc.cd/ugF)
http://pc.cd/fgF (http://pc.cd/fgF)
http://pc.cd/GnF (http://pc.cd/GnF)
Title: Re: Bird ID Help, Please
Post by: Dumpsterkitty on 09-Dec-13, 11:16:12 AM
Immature Cooper's Hawk is my first thought
Immature Northern Goshawk is another thought
Though the tail banding is more distinct on your sister's bird
Anyone else have any thoughts?
Immature Northern Goshawk is another thought
Though the tail banding is more distinct on your sister's bird
Anyone else have any thoughts?
Title: Re: Bird ID Help, Please
Post by: NoraH on 09-Dec-13, 01:19:15 PM
That's what I was thinking, Coop or Sharpie. Was it dove or crow size?
http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm (http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm)
http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm (http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm)
Title: Re: Bird ID Help, Please
Post by: Dumpsterkitty on 09-Dec-13, 01:54:57 PM
That's what I was thinking, Coop or Sharpie. Was it dove or crow size?
http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm (http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm)
http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm (http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm)
The one time I actually saw a sharpie live I was astounded how small they actually are.
Sharpie is a good possibility too, though the tail looks rounded rather than straight...hard to tell for sure.
Title: Re: Bird ID Help, Please
Post by: Paul Hamilton on 09-Dec-13, 06:53:00 PM
I think it is a Cooper's Hawk, based upon size.
Paul
Paul
Title: Re: Bird ID Help, Please
Post by: nwfloridafalconfan on 09-Dec-13, 09:21:26 PM
That's what I was thinking, Coop or Sharpie. Was it dove or crow size?
http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm (http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm)
http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm (http://static.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/accipiterIDtable.htm)
From her vantage point, she's saying bigger than a crow. That would lean toward Cooper's Hawk, but the coloring seemed darker than other photos I've seen. I'm not seeing the trademark yellow eyes of a juvenile, but the hawk many have been too distant for the camera to pick up that detail. Oh, I've just come across a Cooper's photo with the darker coloring. Looks pretty close: http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/coopers_hawk/id (http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/coopers_hawk/id)
Title: Re: Bird ID Help, Please
Post by: nwfloridafalconfan on 12-Dec-13, 04:20:09 PM
Thanks for the replies. Here is Cornell's answer to my email:
A Northern Goshawk does not have rufous barring on the chest, only dark brown vertical stripes as a juvenile or gray bars as an adult. But more importantly, the tail is too short for any of the accipiters, and the white bars in the tail are too bright. This is a Red-shouldered Hawk. You can learn more about them on the Lab's All About Birds website:
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Red-shouldered_Hawk/id (http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Red-shouldered_Hawk/id)
Happy FeederWatching,
Anne Marie Johnson
Project Assistant
Project FeederWatch
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
159 Sapsucker Woods Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
http://feederwatch.org (http://feederwatch.org)
(607) 254-2416
A Northern Goshawk does not have rufous barring on the chest, only dark brown vertical stripes as a juvenile or gray bars as an adult. But more importantly, the tail is too short for any of the accipiters, and the white bars in the tail are too bright. This is a Red-shouldered Hawk. You can learn more about them on the Lab's All About Birds website:
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Red-shouldered_Hawk/id (http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Red-shouldered_Hawk/id)
Happy FeederWatching,
Anne Marie Johnson
Project Assistant
Project FeederWatch
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
159 Sapsucker Woods Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
http://feederwatch.org (http://feederwatch.org)
(607) 254-2416
Title: Re: Bird ID Help, Please
Post by: Dumpsterkitty on 12-Dec-13, 05:28:58 PM
Thanks for the replies. Here is Cornell's answer to my email:
This is a Red-shouldered Hawk.
This is a Red-shouldered Hawk.
Well I'll be dipped. It's not one I even thought of. Thanks!
Title: Re: Bird ID Help, Please
Post by: NoraH on 12-Dec-13, 06:03:04 PM
Me either, but I've never seen one. Glad you found out! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bird ID Help, Please
Post by: NoraH on 29-Dec-13, 03:06:16 PM
:clap: I've never seen a Red-Shouldered, or maybe I have and didn't know it. Thanx for passing your reply from Cornell along, good to know!!