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I've read a couple of references to a pair of Falcons at Seneca towers but really haven't found much information about them.  Does anybody know much about them such as where they are from or their names?  Do they have a nest box with eggs that they are taking turns incubating?

Msradell, we have just recently been seeing these 2 falcons on Seneca Towers. The female is a 1 year old juvenile with green over black leg bands-we haven't been able to get the numbers on them yet but we suspect this may be Billy who has been around all winter and seen at Russell Station and the Summerville area by Lake Ontario. The male is unbanded so we will not be able to ID him. They've also been seen at the Kodak research building (Kodak Park) on Lake Ave. They have been seen trying to mate but she doesn't quite know how it's done yet so they most likely have no nest site or eggs.  :wave:

wouldn't it be cool if he was one of Mariah's produced after she left Rochester? It coulda happened  :wub:

Yep, sure coulda!    :yes:

This juvie female is from Luzerne County, PA!! Just need a name! She can breed right now!

Wow, just two months ago the official count in Rochester was two Ontarians and one Pennsylvanian.  Now it's one Ontarian, two Pennsylvanians, and one universal (The Seneca Towers tiercel).  Hard to keep up! 

I'm happy to report about the Seneca Towers female-thru the team work of my good friends Donna Cook and Tracy Simpson from the Canadian Peregrine Foundation we have information from the man who banded this 1 year old Peregrine. Below is a copy of the emails sent by all 3. And congrats to Lou Capuano who got the ID on this falcon with his long lens camera this past weekend.

Thank you one and all!!

 On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 2:31 PM, F. Arthur McMorris <mcmorris@mac.com> wrote:
To: Donna Cook

Hello Donna,

Many thanks for calling back and giving me your e-mail address, and thanks for confirming the sighting location, in Rochester New York. Below is the information about 67/AR. Please keep me in the loop about how she does, this year and (hopefully) for many years into the future!

Here’s the link to the site where you can report your sighting to the Bird Banding Laboratory at the US Fish and Wildlife Service:

https://www.pwrc.usgs.gov/BBL/bblretrv/ (https://www.pwrc.usgs.gov/BBL/bblretrv/)

If you have an questions about reporting, just let me know.

Best regards,

Art

F. Arthur McMorris, Ph.D.
Peregrine Falcon coordinator
Pennsylvania Game Commission
405 Bryn Mawr Ave.
Bala-Cynwyd, PA  19004
610-664-2174
610-220-6566 cell



Begin forwarded message:

> From: "F. Arthur McMorris" <mcmorris@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: Possible Peregrine Band Recovery
> Date: May 13, 2014 at 11:45:25 AM EDT
> To: Tracy Simpson <tracy@peregrine-foundation.ca>
>
> Hello Tracy,
>
> Yes, 67/AR Black/Green is a female that was banded at the nest on a cliff in Luzerne County, PA, on May 20, 2013. There were 3 in the nest: 2 females and a “sex uncertain” bird that was probably male.
>
> Many thanks for this information. I received a phone call this morning from “E Cook” (phone caller ID; I did not catch the name of the caller) about this same bird - I presume that was your friend, the finder?
>
> Many thanks for the information; very good to hear that she’s out there and doing well in the world. We’ve seen juveniles nest successfully in PA, both females and males; maybe 67/AR will do the same. Please keep me in the loop about future developments.
>
> Art
>
> F. Arthur McMorris, Ph.D.
> Peregrine Falcon coordinator
> Pennsylvania Game Commission
> 405 Bryn Mawr Ave.
> Bala-Cynwyd, PA  19004
> 610-664-2174
> 610-220-6566 cell
>
>
>
> On May 12, 2014, at 11:39 PM, Tracy Simpson <tracy@peregrine-foundation.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hello Mr. McMorris,
>>
>> I have a friend in Rochester, New York that has a female peregrine juvenile banded Blk / Grn 67 AR that has been hanging around her apartment building for about a month now with an unbanded male.  This friend is a watcher of peregrines and knows how to read a band so I am confident in her recovery.  She writes,
>>
>>
>> I wanted to inquire whether this might be one of your birds?  If she is, would you be able to provide me with a bit of information on her hatch location that I could share with the NY folks?
>>
>> Any help you could be would be most appreciated and I will let you know if she does nest.
>>
>> I look forward to hearing from you.
>>
>> Tracy Simpson
>> Raptor Centre and Education Coordinator
>> The Canadian Peregrine Foundation
>>
>

Yes, she is a Cliff born falcon, so awesome!! Art was so nice and he is going to Google the area to find where she is. She has no name, soooo, here we go! He also said it's very possible that she could lay eggs at this age and if one of them disappear, they are nesting!! I looked and looked on the net for a 67/AR, found the before and after numbers but not that one. Frustrating when Google does not know!! Anyway, she's here and will they both stay!!  :devil:

Obviously, Tracy and I both contacted the same guy for when I called him this am, he said, I emailed you the info! I did try and send an email last night to another guy not Art and was looking at the phone when I hung up and said HUH??? Anyway, I called him earlier and let him know it wasn't me that emailed him and it was probably Tracy. He said yes, it was Tracy from Canada, so he figured since he had me on the phone, he would take my email and send out the info. I'm so relieved we now know where she is from. NNF/NoNameFemale!

How cool that she's from a natural cliff scrape! Good detective work!

After you posted this AM about Luzerne Co. PA, I googled it and it came up about a banding at a cliff nest last year and I wondered if she might have been one of them.  Guess a name for her is in order too!  Thanks, Donna and Tracy for all your efforts...they paid off!   :thumbsup:

Great team work ladies!  Now you get to 'name' another falcon too  :2thumbsup:

I've seen a few one year olds lay eggs at this time of year in the past - usually only two as it's later in the season so not too late for another falcon baby or two.

I've been off the beam for ages - but the Seneca Towers story is so interesting! Good work, all!!

MAK said these 2 haven't been seen since last weekend...wonder if they're nesting or left the area.  We might not need names for them after all. 

Isn't there a nest box somewhere where they were seen or am I thinking of someone else?  A nest box that hasn't been used I seem to remember?

That would be Hawkeye, I think MAK saw the male there once or twice but lately they have been spotted under the bridge. Either they have eggs or like Kris said, they left. I hope not!

Wonder if she'd nest under the bridge given she's cliff born?  Or they're at the nest box. Guess we'll find out soon enough!

I was just thinking of the submitted names...maybe save them for B&DC's babies rather than name a bird that might not be around anymore.

Well, just after I write the post above, Joyce tweets she sees the tiercel.   :laugh:   :paperbag:

 :lol:  :thumbsup:

Yes, and I saw the male fly by my window around noon on Wednesday. So they're still around-most likely nesting and that's why we're not seeing too much of them.  ;)

So MAK moves into a "falcon tower"!  Yup!  She's at home!   :yahoo:

:spit:

Home for at least a year!  :yes:

 :pray:  He will answer your prayers.

 :wave:

A pic from today...

...and what a gorgeous pic it is!! Thanks Lou!!  :thumbsup:

Great shot!  :thumbsup:

Nice Lou!  :flash:

Beautiful picture Lou!   :notworthy:

Here are a couple of pictures I snapped of STJ and STT today.

Jenny, from the DEC, reported that Luzerne, the female that was hanging out at the Seneca Tower Apartments with a tiercel named Veteran, was found dead and brought into the DEC Offices.  There are no other details at this time.

Fly free Luzerne.   :(   :heart:

Oh no! First Voyager now Luzerne  :o  :crying:

Oh no!!!!   :crying:

OMG, I just saw her last week! I hope it wasn't fowl play!! MAK over heard 2 people in the elevator saying the "Hawks" need to be taken out as they were finding bird parts on the 22 floor balcony! I pray nothing like this happened to her! So many obstacles in that area, bridge, traffic, people!! Hope they find out what happened to her! Sweet Luzerne, fly free!  :heart: Feel bad for Veteran!  :crying:

 :sorrow: :sorrow:

I would report what those people said to DEC annonymously just as a precaution.  We have had a similar situation up here where a woman threatened to poison the falcons.  That way if something happens, they know whose door to be knocking on first.  It's also a good opportunity to 'educate' people and remind them of the 'laws' around endangered species.

Oh no...I truly hope she didn't die because of humans  :(  What an awful week for peregrines.  Sue (Bess)

More bad news..fly free, Luzerne.  :sorrow:

Oh geez, not another one so soon after Voyager. :'( Sure hope no person was responsible.

Dot in PA

I feel lucky that I got to see Luzerne in person several times and that I got a few good pictures of her.  She was beautiful in her juvie to sub-adult plumage.  I also feel good that we named her. It would be a shame to have to refer simply to her band numbers in death.  She was more than a number over a letter.

I feel double honored to see her and Veteran flying around the gorge below and up to the Tower, right in front of me then Luzerne turning upside down to grab the food from Veteran! It was a "WOW" moment for me and one I will never forget! Shoot, I feel so bad losing 2 in one week!

Such sad news...I only hope that humans did not have a hand in her passing!  I enjoyed seeing pics of her and Veteran.  Blessings to the rest of the Rochester Falcon Family! :angel:

My condolences to all over the loss of Luzerne, and so terribly sorry MAK lost one of her beloved resident Falcons. Just reading comments about possible human involvement was sickening. I do hope that's not the case. Yes, a very sad week in the Rochester Peregrine world.

Fantastic Lou  :thumbsup:

So sad to lose Luzerne when she was so young, but at least she had a chance to "be a falcon".  :(

Just so terribly sad; fly over the rainbow young one. .  . Christiane

Sorry...just feeling a need to let it out...

It just flat out sucks...

As if it wasn't enough to lose Voyager-now we've lost Luzerne! Sure wish I had known her longer-she gave me some memorable moments flying past my window vocalizing most of the time to let me know she was out there. Chasing Veteran who had food and screaming the whole time. There's nothing else like seeing a falcon at eye level about 20 feet away!!  I'll never forget the first time I saw her after moving into Seneca Towers-I was walking out to my car to go on my morning watch and I heard her. I looked up at the building and straight above me was Luzerne on the east side roof! Even tho the sightings only lasted seconds as she and Veteran passed by it was more than enough and I feel privileged for the short time I got to share space with this gorgeous sub-adult Peregrine Falcon! I'll never forget her!  :sorrow: :heart:

Been thinking of you all day, MAK, as I knew that the loss of your friend and neighbor falcon Luzerne would be tough for you.  Take care.

Thanks Pat-I appreciate it. We all lost her... :heart:

MAK,I've also been thinking of you all day because it seemed so absolutely fitting that your new place came with a pair of falcons. I feel so bad for you and for Luzerne and Veteran. I'm sad too for all of us who got to know her a bit through your reports. Falcons seem not to dwell on sorrowful events like many of us humans do, and perhaps in due time Veteran will attract another mate. I'm truly sorry for your loss.

Dot in PA

Thank you Dot-it's good to hear from you. I hope you are well. Sad times for all that loved Luzerne and Voyager. I'm sure Veteran will find another mate, I just hope he brings her back here.  :heart:

I am so, so sorry to learn this! MAK, I know you are devastated! Sending love...

 :thankyou:

I really enjoyed the pics you posted of Luzerne, MAK - thanks for sharing her & Veteran with us  :heart:

My pleasure Patricia-I only wish it were under different circumstances.  :(

I am well, MAK, thanks for asking. It would be really nice if Veteran brought back a mate to his old stomping grounds by you so he wouldn't be tempted to interfere with Beauty, DC, and fledglings.

Dot in PA

Dot, we are all hoping for that-the good news is that I'm seeing Veteran on the building and yesterday I watched him clear the airspace here by Seneca Towers so he's keeping his territory so far.   :phew:

Thank you for the update MAK, such a tragic situation.  I hope Veteran can find himself a new mate and I'm sure given all the pefas that go through the area he shouldn't have any trouble attracting someone.  Still sucks though, Luzerne was so young... :(.

Joyce mentioned maybe Billie will come back and hook up with Veteran-that would be sweet. Feel awful about Luzerne tho... :'(

Those are both good signs that Veteran will stay put.  With all the busy-ness of this season, starting with Pigott's departure, Beauty and Dot.ca's 2014 family and the discovery of Veteran and Luzerne, I haven't really looked for Billy in a long time.  Perhaps she moved on.  She is, after all, a peregrine.  It would indeed be sweet if she is still in the vicinity and would like to settle down and mate with Veteran. 

I too feel awful about Luzerne and Voyager.  The lump in my throat and the tears in my eyes re-appear just with typing their names.  At least they got to enjoy a year of beautiful flight. 

Fall is coming and there will be migrating Falcons, so one never knows who may fly in! I hope Veteran finds himself a mate over the Winter months! Beauty can sure attract them, no reason Veteran can't. I agree Pat, just mentioning the names puts my heart in heaviness! A week I won't forget!  :heart:

I'm sort of new to pefa behavior, so I have a question- would it be possible for one of the juvies- Tesh or Nettie to pair up with Veteran?

If one of the girls stayed in the vicinity it's possible. Not very likely though. Most disperse out of their natal area in the fall and don't generally return. The only one I can recall staying nearby for the 1st winter was Hafoc, who stayed south of town.

and Zephyr, who courted Beauty.   :happy:

I had a feeling I was forgetting someone :)

Thank you Dumpsterkitty & Carol P for the answers! Sure would be cool if one of them stayed! 8)

Has anyone heard any news on Luzerne? What happened, where was she found?  :(

If we're ever told, I'll be really surprised.

MAKfalcon (MAK): After checking my pics I can say there is definitely at least one 7, possibly two 7's on black. This may very well be Billie At ST

Well wouldn't that be something!  Hope you can confirm her ID soon.  Good detective work as always ladies!  :2thumbsup:

That would be awesome! 

If you're correct, MAK, that would certainly explain her familiarity with ST.  I was going to ask if it could be Billy, but I didn't hear any mention of sub-adult coloring.  At what age does the juvie/sub-adult coloring start to disappear?

I asked MAK the same question.  Here's a good reference I found.
 
    http://www.nemesisbird.com/bird-science/ageing-peregrine-falcons-in-the-field/ (http://www.nemesisbird.com/bird-science/ageing-peregrine-falcons-in-the-field/)

This is excellent.  Thanks, Kris.  It says that a pefa can be sporting adult plumage at 13 months. Billy is about 15 months old now, so that would fit. How wonderful that our watchers have possibly spotted two BANDED females in the past few days.  Let's hope they can eventually ID them. 

I can see some immature feathers on this bird in MAK's photos or I'm imagining it? but I do see brown so she could indeed be Billie. 

 C&C have a good explanation of molting on their FB page with photos. 

As per C&C: First molts for peregrines are incomplete, meaning that they don't have every feathers replaced by the adult gray (which is why you can often see some remaining brown feathers on a young adult peregrine that has only gone through one molt).

I noticed that too, Carly, especially around some of the tips.  

I finally took some time to go through my pics of the falcon on Seneca Towers Apartment Building south end Wednesday afternoon 8/20.  I am confident the female is 77/AX "Billy". (Note - spelling is as reported in memory of Central Terminal female employee.)

I definitely have 77 in the black over green. If you look through the 4 upside down photos, you can see an X under the right 7. In one pic it almost looks like 2 Xs, but an AX can look that way. Remember, Billy was scratching and I was rapid shooting, hoping to get something with all that movement.

Yep, looks like 77 to me too, Joyce.  Also, in Dana's band pictures taken last October, the letter "A" wearing off of the band.  I'm not surprised it's not legible now.  Welcome back, Billy!

I don't see how it could be anybody else. Question-how is her name spelled officially? Billy is a male spelling and Billie is the female spelling. Anybody know?  :confused:

Looks like 77/AX to me...particularly 6065. And the malar stripe looks like the one composite I had saved to the family tree (attached)

And I've always had her name spelled Billy on the tree. I record the names as they're published at banding. Same with Gurdy last year at the Sheraton. Someone later said it might actually be Gertie, but I go with what's published.

Not sure how "official" this is, but here's the entry on the Forum from Sage, announcing the 2013 Central Terminal Banding.  I know she spelled Saoirse and Zbigniew correctly, so I'll bet Billy is right, too. :)

« Reply #212 on: 13-Jun-13, 03:22:30 PM »
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THE LIST YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!!! Straight from the DEC!

UB:
Bailey - F - yellow(missing) -> silver
MacKay - F - red
Winspear - M - blue
 
Statler:
The guys at Statler chose traditional Polish and Irish names.
Zbigniew - M - white (ZBIG-nev. Joe's Polish name. It is a common male name. Nickname is often "Ziggy", so we can call him that.)
Antrim - M - blue (The county in Ireland where Conner is from.)
Saoirse - F - green (SEER-sha. Gaelic for "Freedom".)
Celestyna - F - red (Sel-es-TEEN-a. Polish name meaning "Heavenly".)
 
CT:
Virginia - F - yellow
Billy - F - red
Edward - M - green
 
North Bridge:
George - M - no tape silver
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The reason I commented is because I spoke to someone at CT who clarified the names for me. All were people who had worked at the Terminal.  I asked if Billy was a male or female employee because of the spelling. I was told it was a female employee.  I was also told that Edward was not shortened because that's how the man was referred to.

Today it is more common to use an i or ie instead of a y, but back then names such as Patty, Jenny, Betty, Billy, Vicky, Cathy, etc. were standard.

We have a Bobbie!!  :wave:

Unless their mother is named Lisa. Then they would be Pattey, Jenney, Bettey, Billey, Vickey, Cathey, etcey.

Billy or Billie or Billey.  However her name is spelled, I'm just happy that she's being seen again.  So happy that a Mariah and Kaver grandkid is doing so well.  Could M&K great grandkids be in our future here in Rochester?  You know that we'll be watching.  :clap: :thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

And we do!!

This is off topic (Seneca Towers falcons, that is) I know, but I'm wondering if possibly the BS falcon could be Billy's sister Virginia, and her yellow tape has fallen off.  Billy's red tape fell off, so who knows?  There was a juvie female, black over green on left/yellow tape on right, falcon seen at BS right after Pigott left this past spring.  She was never ID'd, but those were Virginia's band colors. Maybe Virginia has followed Billy to this area.  Hopefully we'll see the new female at BS again and someone will be able to ID her.

Too many females, let's not confuse DC!!   :confused:   :D

You never know Pat.  This is the season for migrants to start flowing through the area, including all the youngsters that hatched this year.  I think the watchers will be very busy this fall/winter!   :happy:

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/djweeds/8-25BillyCT_zpsb643d078.jpg) (http://s140.photobucket.com/user/djweeds/media/8-25BillyCT_zpsb643d078.jpg.html)

Check it out!! MAK'S super pic and confirmed that this is Billy from CT!! Awesome job MAK, she is gorgeous!!!!

She's beautiful and she has her grandma's (Madame X) speckles too I notice  :wub:

MAK! WHAT an exciting moment for you! Yaaaaay it was you who made the discovery/ID!!!

 :wave:

She is gorgeous! Great pic, MAK!  Mariah and Kaver's grandbaby too..good genes all the way around!   :clap:

The money shot!  Good job, MAK!

She's just plain gorgeous-all grown up on us! The adrenaline is still racing thru me 2 hours later! Sure wish y'all could have been on that balcony with me!!!  :wave:

You should set up a nest box on that balcony, MAK!!!

http://youtu.be/HvF9CzBcSJ8 (http://youtu.be/HvF9CzBcSJ8)  MAK's Snippet movie, watch the end!!!  :wave:

Yes she'll need a box so she doesnt' decide she wants B's!!

I'm thinking that too but will ST ever allow one there is the big question..some residents don't like the Falcons!

You put a big flower pot on the balcony..one of those large orange ceramic ones and fill it up with earth then some pebbles on top....pretend you are growing errr...a tree  :o :laugh:  but oh no, look what happened a falcon has laid her eggs there... >:D

Great idea Carly...just like Atlanta.

NOTE - I got a text from Connie (DEC) saying to refer to BILLIE with an IE. Even though original person named after was Billy, this would be less confusing

If I could, I'd rather put a box on my 16th floor balcony Bobbie  ;)

Sounds like a plan..worked at other places!

I can do a flower pot!  And, I wish I had an air conditioner in my window!!! :yes:

Wow what a picture this is! Hello Billie!  And I really like the flower pot idea! Maybe with a small shelf built over it, you know, to keep the rain out, o I mean to store your garden tools!  :harhar:

Here are photos of the peregrine I saw on Thursday 9/18 at Seneca Towers between noon and 1pm. It was on the south end of the building on the ledge above the hall windows. She/he was eating. Because they were taken from my car while it was raining, it was too far to get an ID.

This falcon has a black over green band on left leg and yellow tape on right leg. The feathers appear to be more adult like and I would guess at least 2 years old. Note, there is no visible feathers above the cere, and the head is rounded. The chest lack streaking.

Looks like the same Peregrine I saw this morning with the only difference being the crop was empty when I saw it. I have one pic that looks like yellow on the right leg band.  :handshake:

Good catch Joyce!  Beautiful falcon!   :happy:

Now who could it be?    :surprise:

Let's pretend it's Bingo..come on ..19/BA... :lol:

OK, that was good!!  :2thumbsup: Hope no problems with the 3 there!!

The only males that would fit the bill, (yellow tape), Baron and Zephyr, tape looks pretty good still! Hmm.

If it is indeed a male! Baron would be sporting some juvie feathers still???

He'd have had his first molt by now and yes would still have some brown in there but I have seen a 1 year old that looked adult and was told some mature faster than others but you are likely correct.  I think I'm just wishful thinking but he was the first one I thought of.  :happy:

MAK said that maybe Veteran migrated! Was he not spotted here last Winter?? I hope migration is the key to his disappearance!  :(

I hope he is alive and safe too.   :heart:

Me too.

Veteran has disappeared for days on end before, although not at the same time as another male has appeared.  I'll bet he's fine and just biding his time.

I've checked my Buffalo lists of juvies. My guess is that this mystery falcon is from UB MacKay 2012: "Phoenix" (aka Talon Alda) male, b/g-16/AW, yellow tape. Parents are BB and Yankee.

I don't think it is a Rochester tiercel. Baron 2013 would more than likely have streaks, and doubtful Zephyr's 2008 band tape would last 5 years.

If you look closely and enlarge my photos, it looks like a 6 in the black. If you use Google Chrome you can enlarge screen to 150% and see 6.  I thought I saw A in green on another pic, but nothing that I could get clear enough to post.

Well, they are pretty much neighbors, Billie and Phoenix! Interesting Joyce.

Hopefully he will sit still long enough to get a good read on the band sooner rather than later. Though we do love a good mystery!  :sherlock:

Sort of like "Mystery Date" for Buffalo Billie! :blindfold:

While we were working on the cameras this afternoon, I spoke with Jenny from the DEC about Luzerne.  Jenny told us that Luzerne was found on the sidewalk next to the Seneca Towers.  Due to the trauma found on her body, it looked like she hit the building.

I thought everyone would like to know.   :(

   

Thanks Jenny and Carol-at least we don't have to wonder anymore.  :'(

Yes, thanks Carol.  Poor Luzerne!  :'(

Thanks, Carol, for letting us know what happened to her.  :(

Oh that poor girl! So so so sad! Now we have a whole new pair!! Things can change quickly in a Peregrines world!  :crying:

Carol, did Jenny say anything about a possible nest for that site?

OH no!!! Poor wee girl!!!

No she didn't Donna.

Awww...poor Luzerne :(

I have a pic of the left leg band of Mr. Yellow Tape
He does not have a name as I tracked his identity down-he hails from an undisclosed site near Rochester as the DEC only banded them and didn't give names. I believe he was mistaken for a female.
This is what I found on a list I had saved of known Rochester birds that are still alive

Yellow female   99/BA B/G   yellow   May-13   Rochester, NY

Good work MAK.   :2thumbsup:

Thanks Carly-looks like we'll be naming another falcon here at Seneca Towers!  ;)

Great job, MAK!  Thanks!   :2thumbsup:

And now I don't feel so bad when I recall that a week ago yesterday, when I saw them almost side by side on the north window ledge, I couldn't see a marked size difference.  Apparently 99/BA is fairly large. correct?

Good job, MAK!  I thought Joyce said there was a 6 in the number..must have read it upside down.

He's smaller than Billie from pics I've gotten of the two of them in close proximity.  :yes:

I have 2 more pics that show the B more clearly than the original pic I posted.

I think I recall Joyce saying she saw 66 and an A.  ;D

We could call him Agent 99, but she was a female.  We might have to call him Maxwell.   :laugh:

Good one Pat! For now Agent 99 would be perfect. After all s/he was banded as a female.

MAK's photos also confirm what Dana texted to watchers on 9/27/14, that she "couldn't read bands but maybe seeing 99 in Black which might mean [bird] may have been incorrectly banded as a female.

As for seeing 6...I must have been standing on my head. LOL!

99 is a good temporary name. It's quick and easy to text. If we ever need a more permanent name, we could use the runner-up in the poll that selected Veteran.

Great idea!

Great work MAK!  I was wondering if that's where he was from!

And I agree...99 works just fine...

So glad we know who he is now!  And I like 99! :clap:

Thanks Carly, Pat, Kris and Ei-I appreciates it!  :wave:

Great detective work, MAK!!!

Thank you Miss Bobbie!  :wave:

Au contraire, MAK - thank YOU!!

if the DEC wants to keep 99 birth location quiet that is fine... but are his parents banded? who are they?


(sorry I always hope Mariah is still out there somewhere doing her thing)  :wub:

I believe that the adults are not banded.  So, not Mariah.  I always hope to someday hear about Mariah too BC.  No reason to be sorry.   :happy:

Thanks Carol.

I want to believe

Do you know if Billie and Seth are nesting?

We don't know for sure.

With MAK out of commission, hope one of the other watchers can figure out where and if!!

Yes, hopefully we will know if and where sometime soon! :2thumbsup:

Sharing some pics I took on June 29, 2015 of BILLIE. These verify that the ST falcons do fly right by MAK's balcony and window. LOL Her balcony is the the one with the triple planter in the corner and the chair. Billie flew by twice.

Pics of BILLIE in flight on June 29, 2015.

Nice pics Joyce. I'd live there!!   :wave:

Well I'm glad you "verified" what I've been reporting Joyce! Wouldn't want people to think I'm making this stuff up. By the way, the window to the right on the first pic behind the chair and planter is my apartment. Oh, and nice pics!!  :gum:

 

                               Nice pics, Joyce!  :flash:
                               Love the view, MAK, be it nature or Falcons! :foxbinocs:

What a great view you have MAK!  That must be amazing, you can sit out and have a coffee and the 'rents' come to visit  ;D :wave:

Or, what is the norm, see them fly by from my recliner in the living room!  :yes:

 :lol:  :2thumbsup:

Hope u didn't take what I posted wrong. We all know you aren't making it up.  I just wanted to share what it looks like when it gets captured on camera, because I know you have a hard time with holding your arms up and taking pictures when the falcons are flying by so fast.

That's an understatement Joyce! They fly by in an instant, a fraction of a second most of the time. Nobody could get a pic of them even if they knew the falcon was coming!!  ;D

Well here she or he is!! ST Juvie taken by MAK.

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/djweeds/7-5%20ST%20Juvie%201_zpsbp2pqbww.jpg) (http://s140.photobucket.com/user/djweeds/media/7-5%20ST%20Juvie%201_zpsbp2pqbww.jpg.html)(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/djweeds/7-5%20ST%20Juvie_zpsumt7omix.jpg) (http://s140.photobucket.com/user/djweeds/media/7-5%20ST%20Juvie_zpsumt7omix.jpg.html)

Lovin this!!  :heart:

(I think MAK should get the honor of naming this little beauty)    :thumbsup:

Nice to meet you, little one!

 :wub: :wub:

What a cutie!   :heart:

I agree Donna...  :clap:

Just an FYI that Dana and I found the juvie yesterday afternoon. It was only for a moment before it flew south down river. I let the watchers know, including Joyce and MAK. We needed verification before announcing. Joyce saw all 3 together last night and MAK also saw them this morning. Yesterday we could not be sure that this wasn't a visiting juvie. That Genesee hadn't flown down river. Now we know for sure. Billie and Seth have a little one.  A juvie that must have fledged at least a couple days ago. :clap:

That is GREAT

Also, this is a Mariah and Kaver great grand baby and is very dear to many of us.  :wub:

Fantastic news!  Very happy for them and all of you!  Hope the little one continues to do well.  :thumbsup:

 :newyearbd: Spectacular news! Wonder if we'll ever find out where Billie and Seth nested. MAK, they're your close neighbors, so I think you should choose the name.

Dot in PA

Joyce said she was working on a falconwatch post, but in the meantime she shared this album on FB

https://plus.google.com/photos/103506887401231004704/albums/6168102998538601009

Posted already on Watcher's Weekend, but appropriate to post here.  Congratulations FalconMa Mak!!  While you weren't thrilled with your move to ST, LOOK what happened!  As if you hadn't looked.  And God must have a great plan for you because he has given you the falcons during your recovery.  You are blessed.  I can't wait to see, read, hear about the next chapters in this saga.  Fingers crossed that both pair accept their territories.  Seems to be the case so far.  With youngsters I believe the adults are more than tolerant of another pair that can help with parenting.  But we will see.

I truly am blessed Bonnie! See ya soon!! :wave:

Update from Seneca Towers-there are 2 juvies!!! Both were on the west side railing tonight when Donna and I came home from todays Watcher weekend watch and get together. Joyce came over and got pics of them and videos that Donna and I took this morning confirm 2 juvies playing and not Seth and Bith as we thought. So exciting-another juvie in Rochester! And another Mariah & Kaver great grandbaby!! Hot diggity dog people!!!! Carly also stopped by to check the Seneca Towers falcons-she, Donna and I came up with Sellie Se for Seth and llie for Billie to call this newest juvie. No leg bands to ID for sure but Bith is noticeably darker than Sellie. These are by no means their official names just what I am using when I refer to them in tweets and in my watch reports unless or until they get official names.

Click on the link below of my snippets from the day. You'll see Seth on the railing. A juvie knocks him off and then another juvie knocks that juvie off not Seth, as we thought at the time. Donna's video shows the 2 juvies better and Joyce has pics of them. I'm sure they will post them at some point.

http://youtu.be/8t5QMm4dSas (http://youtu.be/8t5QMm4dSas)

Two juvies at ST! This are great news!  :yahoo:

What a wonderful weekend you are all having! Sorry to miss it.

I second that!

I just knew it! Two juvies at ST! Sellie & Bith, I will hopefully see you tomorrow! :clap: :2thumbsup: ;D :yahoo:

With so much sadness observed at so many nests this year this is truly a blessing.  Nature can seem cruel at times but it's news like this that shows us the joy and wonder.  Congratulations MAK!  I can't think of a better person to be on the front lines with this new Rochester family.

Thanks for the news and the video.Beautiful weekend for sure.   goodnews:   :thanks2:

No problem ladies I'm all about passing along news on our Rochester Peregrine Falcons-good or bad. And thanks for the vote of confidence!  :wave:

Maybe there are more !!  Keep watching  !!!   Wouldn't that be so cool  !!!

We sure will!  :wave:

Four juveniles in the air over Rochester -- first time since the M&K days!

We missed you Paul  !!!

Actually, we had four from the Times Square Building nest last year; Mercury, Nettie, Nor'easter and Tesh.  It's still great, though!

I love this picture of either Billie or Seth on the bridge.  And Bith or Sellie on top of the building.  I can make the files bigger.

Love these pics too!  Wonder where their scrape was?

I've been thinking lately about how fortunate we've been to be able to see Billie, granddaughter of Mariah and Kaver, grow from a very young five month old juvie to an adult and now to a first time mom.  Here's a side by side view of her.  The pic on the left was taken by Dana in October of 2013 at the Coast Guard Station radio tower and used to ID her for the first time, and the pic on the right was taken by MAK this past Sunday at Seneca Towers.  What a lovely young falcon she is.  We're also very fortunate to have some very dedicated watchers who are very talented photographers!

She is beautiful!

 :thumbsup:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSaaxh-WoAArF3O.jpg:thumb) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSaaxh-WoAArF3O.jpg:large) What a nice view of home Billie and Seth have when they are flying a half mile down the river.

Beautiful shot, Shaky.  Did you take it?

No, I found it on twitter (https://twitter.com/john_kucko/status/659384578868682752).

Ah, it's lovely.

I saw John's pic on FB too..beautiful!

Thanks for sharing that beautiful picture ,the colors are so outstanding.How lucky are we to be surrounded by such beauty.   :clap:

Working on the family tree. Did we ever make a guestimate whether Sellie & Bith were male or female?

Thanks.

Both male.  :yes:

 :thumbsup:

And one other question...

Would you guess that Bith & Sellie hatched about 2 weeks after the Times Square bunch?

I'd say that's a safe bet Ei.  :yes:

Thank you!