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Title: Condo takes down endangered peregrine falcon’s nesting box
Post by: Donna on 21-Sep-14, 08:10:26 AM
http://nypost.com/2014/09/21/condo-takes-down-endangered-peregrine-falcons-nesting-box/ (http://nypost.com/2014/09/21/condo-takes-down-endangered-peregrine-falcons-nesting-box/)

They’re flipping the bird at the falcon family.  A Central Park West condo — with the blessing of the state agency charged with protecting wildlife — has destroyed the man-made nest a pair of endangered peregrine falcons used to breed and raise two rare chicks.
Comet and Cruiser’s nesting box had been secured to the penthouse windowsill of animal advocates Steve Nislick and wife Linda Marcus at 25 Central Park West. But construction workers on scaffolds removed the box without warning on Monday, Marcus said. Shortly after, the condo board sent a letter to her apartment saying the board authorized the removal because of the “dangerous condition” it posed to pedestrians and residents below.
“I looked out the window and it was gone,” Marcus said. “The birds came back and were making all kinds of noise. It was heartbreaking.”
Board president Mike Kelly said a letter from the state Department of Environmental Conservation — indicating no state approval was needed to trash the box and that the agency didn’t anticipate its removal would result in any harm — sealed their decision.
“It’s not the board against the birds,” Kelly said. “[Marcus and Nislick’s] emotional investment in the animals can blind them to what the consequences are for people.”
Falcon experts are crying foul.
“The survival of these birds is reliant on the hospitality of strangers,” Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — a master falconer — told The Post.
Experts say losing the box means the 17-inch-tall predators may not breed successfully. Once a peregrine finds a perch to call home, it will typically return there. But eggs laid on building ledges often break.
A DEC spokesman said peregrine eggs and babies are protected in New York state, but the agency determined no harm would be done by destroying the box since the baby birds have flown the coop.


Title: Re: Condo takes down endangered peregrine falcon’s nesting box
Post by: carly on 21-Sep-14, 08:14:23 AM
emotional investment in the animals can blind them to what the consequences are for people.”

People's rights should not trump those of the species we share the planet with.  Plain and simple.  What are the consequences?  You're inconvenienced a few months of the year?  Go live in a third world country if you want to learn about 'inconvenience'.

I'm so sick of listening to the rich whine about their rights...take your money and go elsewhere is my response.  In fact take that shuttle to Mars - the planet would be better off without the likes of you!


Title: Re: Condo takes down endangered peregrine falcon’s nesting box
Post by: patsy6 on 21-Sep-14, 08:37:57 AM
Shame on the people on that condo board and shame on the person from the DEC who made that decision!  Are they idiots?  It won't harm the "baby birds" because they have "flown the coop?"  What about next year's "baby birds?"  And the year after that, and after that, etc.?


Title: Re: Condo takes down endangered peregrine falcon’s nesting box
Post by: Kris G. on 21-Sep-14, 09:02:30 AM
emotional investment in the animals can blind them to what the consequences are for people.”

People's rights should not trump those of the species we share the planet with.  Plain and simple.  What are the consequences?  You're inconvenienced a few months of the year?  Go live in a third world country if you want to learn about 'inconvenience'.

I'm so sick of listening to the rich whine about their rights...take your money and go elsewhere is my response.  In fact take that shuttle to Mars - the planet would be better off without the likes of you!

              Right on, Carly!


Title: Re: Condo takes down endangered peregrine falcon’s nesting box
Post by: Donna on 21-Sep-14, 10:02:36 AM
I was just in shock when I read the article.  :o  How could they???


Title: Re: Condo takes down endangered peregrine falcon’s nesting box
Post by: Dot_Forrester on 21-Sep-14, 10:23:52 AM
 :( This is a disgraceful blot on Central Park management and the DEC who approved the nest box removal. Shades of Pale Male ...

Dot in PA


Title: Re: Condo takes down endangered peregrine falcon’s nesting box
Post by: Kris G. on 21-Sep-14, 02:42:43 PM
:( This is a disgraceful blot on Central Park management and the DEC who approved the nest box removal. Shades of Pale Male ...

Dot in PA

But at least some people in PM's building and others fought to have the pair continue to nest there and they did..don't see that happening in this case though.


Title: Re: Condo takes down endangered peregrine falcon’s nesting box
Post by: MAK on 21-Sep-14, 07:53:48 PM
Shame on the people on that condo board and shame on the person from the DEC who made that decision!  Are they idiots?  It won't harm the "baby birds" because they have "flown the coop?"  What about next year's "baby birds?"  And the year after that, and after that, etc.?

There probably won't be babies without the nest box. Stupid is as stupid does! :thumbsdown:


Title: Re: Condo takes down endangered peregrine falcon’s nesting box
Post by: PatriciaRose on 21-Sep-14, 08:36:41 PM
Very sad, but hey maybe those people who put the box up will just put up another box next season! Just to stick it to the condo board! >:D


Title: Re: Condo takes down endangered peregrine falcon’s nesting box
Post by: MAK on 21-Sep-14, 08:48:18 PM
Very sad, but hey maybe those people who put the box up will just put up another box next season! Just to stick it to the condo board! >:D

I like how you think Patricia!  :whistle:


Title: Re: Condo takes down endangered peregrine falcon’s nesting box
Post by: OlRedHair on 22-Sep-14, 06:37:07 PM
Let's hope the apartment owners put up another box. Did we learn anything from the Pale Male situation?


Nora in Florida

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