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Title: Kakking Post by: MAK on 05-Aug-10, 04:18:52 PM Yesterday CarolP said she never heard a juvie kak before when commenting about my morning report. Can someone explain to me what juvie talk is called if not kakking? ???
Title: Re: Kakking Post by: jeanne on 05-Aug-10, 04:23:19 PM Whining and crying?
As opposed to when we said Beauty was a screamer:) Title: Re: Kakking Post by: Dumpsterkitty on 05-Aug-10, 06:33:35 PM It's funny how we can read things differently-I took her comment to mean the at people part, not the kakking part.
Title: Re: Kakking Post by: Carol P. on 05-Aug-10, 10:00:10 PM We talked about this tonite. I consider kakking, an alarm call by the adults. KAK!KAK!KAK!KAK! Very loud. Ee-chupping, more a conversational vocalization. We decided (Jeanne, Brian, MAK and I) that a longer drawn out, whiny, higher pitched, aaaacccckkkk, aaaacccckkkk, aaaacccckkkk is the juvie cry. :D
Title: Re: Kakking Post by: MAK on 05-Aug-10, 10:03:10 PM Ack ack I'm still a juvie! :harhar:
Title: Re: Kakking Post by: Carol P. on 05-Aug-10, 10:05:36 PM Ack ack I'm still a juvie! :harhar: It's a MAK ACK ATTACK! :hysterical: Title: Re: Kakking Post by: jeanne on 05-Aug-10, 10:09:28 PM and speaking of which-- we heard that ack ack tonight!!!! Music to our ears! :heart: :heart: :heart:
Title: Re: Kakking Post by: Donna on 05-Aug-10, 10:10:40 PM You guys are CR "ACK" N me up! :2funny: OK so a Juvie alarm is Ack and an adult is Kak! Very interesting.
Title: Re: Kakking Post by: Carol P. on 05-Aug-10, 10:10:53 PM and speaking of which-- we heard that ack ack tonight!!!! Music to our ears! :heart: :heart: :heart: Sorry I missed it! Title: Re: Kakking Post by: Carol P. on 05-Aug-10, 10:15:43 PM You guys are CR "ACK" N me up! :2funny: OK so a Juvie alarm is Ack and an adult is Kak! Very interesting. B"ack" to the "ack"tion. I think it's a multi-used verbalization. Fright or maybe surprise (by the man on the tower). Hungry (as in feed me now mom and dad!). Attention (here I am!). I'm not sure a juvie has more than one sound. I'll have to pay more attention. I do know that not all juvies sound the same. A few years ago, one of M&K's young had a very, very whinny/tinny sound to their cry. You always knew when this little one was coming. Title: Re: Kakking Post by: Bird Crazy on 07-Aug-10, 07:55:05 AM I do know that not all juvies sound the same. A few years ago, one of M&K's young had a very, very whinny/tinny sound to their cry. You always knew when this little one was coming. Title: Re: Kakking Post by: Lord G on 09-Aug-10, 12:05:33 AM The available literature on the subject (at least that which is easily accessible via a web search) indicates that both the adult and juvenile vocalization is referred to as a "kak". I don't think there's any problem with referring to the alarm call of either a juvenile or an adult by the same term, though there are certainly differences in timbre, depth and volume. See the "Voice" section on this page (http://www.peregrine-foundation.ca/info/identification.html) from the Canadian Peregrine Foundation for an example.
The Communication and Perception section of the Peregrine page (http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Falco_peregrinus.html) on the University of Michigan's Museum of Zoology site also has some useful information that points toward both perceptions of a "kak" and an "ack" being basically the same vocalization since there is a great deal of individuality in these calls. It makes for interesting reading. Title: Re: Kakking Post by: Joyce on 09-Aug-10, 03:01:05 AM The available literature on the subject (at least that which is easily accessible via a web search) indicates that both the adult and juvenile vocalization is referred to as a "kak". I don't think there's any problem with referring to the alarm call of either a juvenile or an adult by the same term, though there are certainly differences in timbre, depth and volume. See the "Voice" section on this page (http://www.peregrine-foundation.ca/info/identification.html) from the Canadian Peregrine Foundation for an example. The Communication and Perception section of the Peregrine page (http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Falco_peregrinus.html) on the University of Michigan's Museum of Zoology site also has some useful information that points toward both perceptions of a "kak" and an "ack" being basically the same vocalization since there is a great deal of individuality in these calls. It makes for interesting reading. Thanks Jim for posting these links. I've never seen the one from MI. Good resource! |