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Title: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 15-Nov-10, 12:07:47 AM
HOOPOE. A genuine beauty and very, very fabulous. However, UNCLEAN.

Like all ABOMINATIONS, Upupa epops is in good company:

Deuteronomy 14  (similar list is in Leviticus 11):
11 You may eat any clean bird.
12 But these you may not eat: the eagle, the vulture, the black vulture,
13 the red kite, the black kite, any kind of falcon,
14 any kind of raven,
15 the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk,
16 the little owl, the great owl, the white owl,
17 the desert owl, the osprey, the cormorant,
18 the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat.

so, WATCH it, you-all.

Hoopoe says his name:
http://www.xeno-canto.org/sounds/uploaded/AFEHYCAHZR/CommonHoopoe2Edwards.mp3
more info and picture source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoopoe


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 15-Nov-10, 12:16:49 AM
A lot of you have more pictures and much more knowledge than I do about hummingbirds. All I've done is sit around with Lou's hummingbird helmet on in Wisconsin, which netted no birds, and take the picture below in Big Sur. What kind is this, please? I knew but forgot. There were gazillions of them.


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Patti from Kentucky on 15-Nov-10, 12:19:04 AM
OK...I'll see your weird looking bird and raise you.

This is a Hoatzin, another amazonian bird.  I took both photos in Peru, at the Tambopata Reserve.  Like the Hoopoe, you wouldn't want to eat the Hoatzin, unless you enjoy a bird with a "disagreeable, manure-like odor"  (Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoatzin).

You might want to read the full wikipedia article; Hoatzins are unique in several ways!

The first photo is the halfway decent one; the second one was blurry, but I thought turned out rather interesting in spite of the blur (or maybe because of the blur).


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 15-Nov-10, 12:26:07 AM
You TOOK that picture?   You SAW that?   I can't believe that thing EXISTS!!!!
and smells like poo to boot!   

Score, Patti!

I also recommend reading the wikipedia article on the Hoopoe, especially the "relationship to humans" section, which cites mentions of the beast in the Quran and Ovid's Metamorphoses.


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Patti from Kentucky on 15-Nov-10, 12:32:28 AM
I also recommend reading the wikipedia article on the Hoopoe, especially the "relationship to humans" section, which cites mentions of the beast in the Quran and Ovid's Metamorphoses.

The "relationship to humans" section was interesting...but the predator defense tactics, even more so!  Secreting a substance that smells like rotting meat that they rub into their feathers, shooting feces (and I thought only primates did that), and hissing like snake!  Pretty cool bird, but I wouldn't want to get on his bad side.


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 15-Nov-10, 12:34:38 AM
  Secreting a substance that smells like rotting meat that they rub into their feathers, shooting feces (and I thought only primates did that), and hissing like snake!  Pretty cool bird, but I wouldn't want to get on his bad side.

I bet it's behavior like that that got him into some Old-Testament-sized trouble.
But his bad side is surely also fabulous.


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Patti from Kentucky on 15-Nov-10, 12:38:45 AM
I have posted this photo before on this forum...but the story is worth a re-run!  This is a female Hooded Warbler.  We met her as we were hiking in the Great Smoky Mountain National Park.  We were tripping merrily down the trail when a rather clueless fledgling came hopping up the trail directly at us.  I think it hadn't yet learned to avoid humans, and was friendly and curious like most young things.  Mother Hooded Warbler got concerned about her goofy youngster, flew down in front of us and tried the "broken wing" routine to try and lure us away from her offspring.  Very cute.  We stayed long enough to snap this picture and then gave them some space.  Happily, the fledgling didn't try to follow us!


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Patti from Kentucky on 15-Nov-10, 12:47:31 AM
A lot of you have more pictures and much more knowledge than I do about hummingbirds. All I've done is sit around with Lou's hummingbird helmet on in Wisconsin, which netted no birds, and take the picture below in Big Sur. What kind is this, please? I knew but forgot. There were gazillions of them.

I'm leaving on a trip tomorrow, and I've already packed my "Western" field guide away, so I'm no help with your bird.  But I'll add my own favorite backyard hummingbird photo (Ruby-throated Hummingbird).


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Patti from Kentucky on 15-Nov-10, 12:48:33 AM
Northern Harrier - this guy is a juvenile.  I took the photo during fall migration in Cape May.


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 15-Nov-10, 12:55:13 AM
But I'll add my own favorite backyard hummingbird photo (Ruby-throated Hummingbird).

wonderful picture. my optic nerve is sizzling a bit


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Patti from Kentucky on 15-Nov-10, 01:02:22 AM
My final contribution to the "H" list:  a Harris's Hawk.  We met this hawk while camping in the Red River Gorge Geological Area in Kentucky...we heard an unusual bird call and while looking all around to identify the culprit, noticed that the campers in the next site over had a captive hawk.  They invited us over to meet the hawk, who was very laid back.

Harris's Hawks are more social than most other hawks; they do cooperative hunting, so they are a good choice for a beginning falconer.


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 15-Nov-10, 01:09:28 AM
I have a harris hawk picture, too, with a "beginning falconer" --


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: annieinelkhart on 15-Nov-10, 08:26:27 AM
I can't compete with the "really different" ones you all seem to have seen.  But this was for sure a different one for me last year.
Tri colored Heron in Blue Springs. 


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Annette on 15-Nov-10, 08:52:50 AM
Harpyie - a big bird of prey

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Harpia_harpyja_qtl1.jpg (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Harpia_harpyja_qtl1.jpg)


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Kris G. on 15-Nov-10, 03:44:37 PM
Harpyie - a big bird of prey

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Harpia_harpyja_qtl1.jpg (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Harpia_harpyja_qtl1.jpg)

WOW!   :scaredblue:


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: gayle on 15-Nov-10, 06:57:38 PM
H is for Hammerkop

The Hammerkop is a sub-Saharan wading bird  It gets its name from the hammer shape of its head.  It feeds on fish, tadpoles, small crustaceans.  These images are screen shots from safari.tv.  It frequently roosts on hippos and hunts from that perch.

From Wikipedia:  "The strangest aspect of Hamerkop behavior is the huge nest, sometimes more than 1.5 m across, comprising perhaps 10,000 sticks and strong enough to support a man's weight. The birds decorate the outside with any bright-coloured objects they can find."

The entire article is interesting:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammerkop

Gayle







 


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: gayle on 15-Nov-10, 07:06:52 PM
Dale, I did not know that the hoopoe was considered tref.  I shall remember that when next I prepare a kosher meal!!

Patti, your photographs are terrific.  It is not easy to separate a bird from its surroundings in a rain or any other forest.

Annette, that harpyie is one ferocious looking bird!

Gayle


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: gayle on 15-Nov-10, 07:36:24 PM
H is for heron, Bare-throated Tiger Heron

I photographed this magnificant heron in Tortugueros. Costa Rica.

Gayle


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: gayle on 15-Nov-10, 07:41:33 PM
Also from Tortuguero, the Chestnut-bellied Heron.

Gayle


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 15-Nov-10, 08:02:41 PM
Dale, I did not know that the hoopoo was considered tref.  I shall remember that when next I prepare a kosher meal!!

Dictionary.com says: tref: "unfit to be eaten or used, according to religious laws; not kosher."

Apparently, you're not supposed to cook raptors either. Or bats. That whole list.
So, we have a choice. Severely limit our ingredient list or not invite people who care.
I'd find it hard to give up my old bat-eating habit.

The chestnut-bellied is gorgeous. He has all those bells and whistles, like the other herons.


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Patti from Kentucky on 16-Nov-10, 12:56:46 AM
A lot of you have more pictures and much more knowledge than I do about hummingbirds. All I've done is sit around with Lou's hummingbird helmet on in Wisconsin, which netted no birds, and take the picture below in Big Sur. What kind is this, please? I knew but forgot. There were gazillions of them.

OK...having dug out my Western field guide, I'm going to say Anna's Hummingbird -- either a female or a sub-adult male.  It looks like only a few species would be likely to show up in Big Sur.  I don't know when you were there, but the Anna's Hummingbird is shown as being a year-round resident.  If you were there during summer, the other bird that might also be a possibility is a summer resident:   Black-chinned Hummingbird.  There are other summertime or "rare" possibilities, but none of them particularly looks like your photo.  Does Anna's or Black-chinned ring a bell, since you said you used to know?


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 16-Nov-10, 01:46:43 AM
If you were there during summer, the other bird that might also be a possibility is a summer resident:   Black-chinned Hummingbird.  There are other summertime or "rare" possibilities, but none of them particularly looks like your photo.  Does Anna's or Black-chinned ring a bell, since you said you used to know?

It was early September. Definitely no one mentioned black-chinned. I've never heard of the beast. Maybe Anna's. I thought I knew ;) Hmmmm....


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 16-Nov-10, 01:48:36 AM
H is for Hammerkop
Gayle

Found another picture (wiki). I like the bird a lot. Thanks, Gayle! Also, his feet are all wet.

wikipedia: "One unusual feature is that up to ten birds join in "ceremonies" in which they run circles around each other, all calling loudly, raising their crests, fluttering their wings. Another is "false mounting", in which one bird stands on top of another and appears to mount it, but they may not be mates and do not copulate."

("let's not and say we did" sort of thing, I guess.)


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Patti from Kentucky on 16-Nov-10, 02:02:37 AM
If you were there during summer, the other bird that might also be a possibility is a summer resident:   Black-chinned Hummingbird.  There are other summertime or "rare" possibilities, but none of them particularly looks like your photo.  Does Anna's or Black-chinned ring a bell, since you said you used to know?

It was early September. Definitely no one mentioned black-chinned. I've never heard of the beast. Maybe Anna's. I thought I knew ;) Hmmmm....


Well, here's another list...this is from a checklist of birds at Andrew Molera State Park, which is probably pretty representative.
[ ] *  Black-chinned Hummingbird
[ ] B  Anna's Hummingbird
[ ] *  Costa's Hummingbird
[ ] *  Calliope Hummingbird
[ ]     Rufous Hummingbird
[ ] B  Allen's Hummingbird

The "B" means it breeds in the area.
The * means it's rare enough to be reported to the local rare bird alert, so you would have been lucky to have seen those.  But see if any of these rings a bell.


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 16-Nov-10, 02:18:52 AM
Patti-  the image below is on
http://www.richard-seaman.com/USA/States/California/TahquitzCanyon/index.html
and they call it an Anna's. I think this is the same bird, or maybe its friend from down the block.
Anna's, then! Thanks.


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Aafke on 16-Nov-10, 09:44:19 AM
H is for Herring Gull

from Wikipedia:
 It is a large gull. The bill is yellow with a red spot and there is a ring of bare yellow skin around the pale eye. The legs are normally pink.

Here it is a common Gull.
The first picture shows an adult
The second picture shows a young bird
greetings Aafke


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Aafke on 16-Nov-10, 05:40:11 PM
H is for me also for the Hoopoe

I really like the Hoopoe, you will say: you like all birds! Yes I do.
The Hoopoe was the first rare bird that I saw in my life.
Years ago, when we just started with looking at birds, we only had one small binocular. We drove through the meadows looking for birds. We only knew a few birds at that time. We saw a group of men (it are always men) with telescopes. We stopped and asked: what do you see?
The anwer was "a Hoopoe"!
A what???
Well they were kind enough to let us look through the telescope. It was amazing, I will never forget. 
Robert, my husband looked through the telescope too and said: he looks like a lapwing! Well that wasn't the smartest thing to say. 

http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/6562/hop02bki1.jpg
greetings Aafke


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: MAK on 16-Nov-10, 05:55:29 PM
 :flash:   Cool pic Aafke!    ;D


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 16-Nov-10, 06:18:33 PM
ooooh, Aafke, that hoopoe picture is MUCH MUCH better than the wikipedia one I posted. That's AMAZING!

I love them.


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Dumpsterkitty on 27-Nov-10, 12:54:57 PM
So while I was browsing for a good white breasted nuthatch picture I ran across this picture.  When I took it in July I didn't realize what it was.  Picasa's I'm feeling lucky (which is exaggerating the color) revealed a House Finch feeding its fledgling...



Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 27-Nov-10, 12:58:24 PM
great House Finch shot, Ei.

I'm always entertained when fledglings, which can look so much larger than their parents, and often have different markings, are demanding food and being fed.
With starlings this can be really funny-looking, like, "HEY, mister! Yeah, YOU! Give me something to eat! "


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: dale on 08-Dec-10, 12:38:41 AM
HOODED CROW

I always saw lots of them in Russia and in Ireland, and they always comported themselves like perfect gangsters.

Here are a couple from Berlin.

Hooded Crow (Corvus cornix) ... is a Eurasian bird species in the crow genus. Widely distributed, it is also known locally as Scotch Crow, Danish Crow, and Corbie or Grey Crow in Ireland, which is what its Welsh name, Brân Lwyd, translates as. Found across northern, eastern and southeastern Europe, and the Middle East, it is an ashy grey bird with black head, throat, wings, tail and thigh feathers, as well as a black bill, eyes and feet. Like other corvids it is an omnivorous and opportunistic forager and feeder. (wikipedia)


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Bobbie Ireland on 08-Dec-10, 04:31:41 AM
HOODED CROW

I always saw lots of them in Russia and in Ireland, and they always comported themselves like perfect gangsters.

Here are a couple from Berlin.

Hooded Crow (Corvus cornix) ... is a Eurasian bird species in the crow genus. Widely distributed, it is also known locally as Scotch Crow, Danish Crow, and Corbie or Grey Crow in Ireland, which is what its Welsh name, Brân Lwyd, translates as. Found across northern, eastern and southeastern Europe, and the Middle East, it is an ashy grey bird with black head, throat, wings, tail and thigh feathers, as well as a black bill, eyes and feet. Like other corvids it is an omnivorous and opportunistic forager and feeder. (wikipedia)

Our Hooded Crows - called "Hoodies" - are perfect gentlemen (women)! They wait politely while other corvids wreck the place in their quest for tidbits. They sit right there on the wire as their relatives - the magpies, jackdaws and rooks - argue incessantly. Then down they come, usually as a pair, choose their bit, and head off. Must be a higher-class neighbourhood.


Title: Re: ABCs of BIRDS - H!
Post by: Donna on 08-Dec-10, 06:06:38 AM
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HOODED CROW

I always saw lots of them in Russia and in Ireland, and they always comported themselves like perfect gangsters.

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Our Hooded Crows - called "Hoodies" - are perfect gentlemen (women)!

Dale, what a beautiful looking bird. Thanks for posting.

Bobbie, Hoodies??? LOL. I have a few but they are wearable!