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Title: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: Paul Hamilton on 12-Sep-09, 01:57:10 PM
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112569465 (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112569465)

From NPR.  The audio is worth listening to as there is a wonderful whoosh as a peregrine makes a high speed, pass enroute to the falconer's shoulder.

Paul


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: dale on 12-Sep-09, 02:44:35 PM
think i can get one of the local kestrels or coopers hawks to guard my heritage tomato plant, Mr. Stripey, against squirrels?

I'd camp out to watch that.


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: schlaf374 on 12-Sep-09, 09:27:00 PM
think i can get one of the local kestrels or coopers hawks to guard my heritage tomato plant, Mr. Stripey, against squirrels?

I'd camp out to watch that.


Glad to hear Mr. Stripey is still going strong. :)
The squirrels have been digging out my container plants, and planting  walnuts in the pots!! :crying:


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: Bird Crazy on 12-Sep-09, 10:56:06 PM
The squirrels have been digging out my container plants, and planting  walnuts in the pots!! :crying:

squirrel tupperware?


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: Gawoman on 14-Sep-09, 11:20:49 AM
I've had good luck with sprinkling black pepper around the plants.  Don't let the pepper touch the plant,  because it burns the leaves in some plants, and you have to reapply every couple of days or after it rains, but I've had good luck.  I bought one of those big containers of ground black pepper at a warehouse club. 


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: Patti from Kentucky on 14-Sep-09, 10:24:23 PM
I've had good luck with sprinkling black pepper around the plants.  Don't let the pepper touch the plant,  because it burns the leaves in some plants, and you have to reapply every couple of days or after it rains, but I've had good luck.  I bought one of those big containers of ground black pepper at a warehouse club. 


I fought squirrels for several years, and finally gave up.  My squirrels were picking them before they were even big enough to make proper fried green tomatoes.  I never got a ripe tomato in spite of an abundance of small tomatoes!  I tried numerous things people suggested, though I didn't try black pepper around the plants.  I did buy some of the "pepper wax" you're supposed to spray directly on the fruits; it's very hot chili pepper in a waxy binder that helps it stay on the fruit.  My squirrels ancestors must have come from down south where the chili pepper is native, 'cause it didn't seem to phase them.  Now I just grow herbs...


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: schlaf374 on 15-Sep-09, 09:22:27 AM
Patti's and my squirrels? must have the same ancestors. they love Red Pepper!


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: Paul Hamilton on 15-Sep-09, 11:15:09 AM
Growin’ ‘maters in the hot sun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)
I planted ‘maters but I got none
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)

I left my garden and it feels so bad
Guess my race is run
The best tomaters that I ever had
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won

Growin’ ‘maters in the hot sun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)
I lost my ‘maters and I lost my fun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)


Paul


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: Donna on 15-Sep-09, 11:41:27 AM
Growin’ ‘maters in the hot sun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)
I planted ‘maters but I got none
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)

I left my garden and it feels so bad
Guess my race is run
The best tomaters that I ever had
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won
I fought the squirrels and the

Growin’ ‘maters in the hot sun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)
I lost my ‘maters and I lost my fun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)


Paul

I love that song and love your lyrics....LOL  :police:


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: valhalla on 15-Sep-09, 12:27:30 PM
Great "song" Paul  :)


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: dale on 15-Sep-09, 02:03:07 PM
great song Paul!

but I didn't give up!  what's happening here is that when a squirrel gnaws part of a Mr. Stripey, I fry up the rest. I'm also proactively picking the big ones green and developing a real taste for it. They're frying up like eggplant, to which they are related but you'd never know under non-wartime conditions. Tobacco and deadly nightshade and potatoes are also related...I'm wondering if I can perform any more alchemy. I might try if I don't die of squirrel cooties (yes, I cut off the squirrelled bits, yes, I wash them, and yes I fry them well).


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: Shaky on 15-Sep-09, 02:06:28 PM
Growin’ ‘maters in the hot sun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)
I planted ‘maters but I got none
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)

I left my garden and it feels so bad
Guess my race is run
The best tomaters that I ever had
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won

Growin’ ‘maters in the hot sun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)
I lost my ‘maters and I lost my fun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)


Paul

‘maters - love it!  :laugh:


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: Carol P. on 15-Sep-09, 04:52:50 PM
Growin’ ‘maters in the hot sun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)
I planted ‘maters but I got none
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)

I left my garden and it feels so bad
Guess my race is run
The best tomaters that I ever had
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won

Growin’ ‘maters in the hot sun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)
I lost my ‘maters and I lost my fun
I fought the squirrels and the squirrels won (twice)


Paul

Love it Paul!  and I LOVE Maters!   :hysterical:


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: valhalla on 15-Sep-09, 04:56:04 PM

 They're frying up like eggplant, to which they are related but you'd never know under non-wartime conditions. Tobacco and deadly nightshade and potatoes are also related...I'm wondering if I can perform any more alchemy.

Funny you should mention Nightshade - that was the lead story of a freebie that I picked up in Whole Foods in Annapolis on Saturday morning.  The freebie was Edible Chesapeake and there are similiar editions for other areas around the Country.  I was amazed how much of our local foods are part of the Nightshade family.


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: Patti from Kentucky on 15-Sep-09, 09:35:42 PM
great song Paul!

but I didn't give up!  what's happening here is that when a squirrel gnaws part of a Mr. Stripey, I fry up the rest. I'm also proactively picking the big ones green and developing a real taste for it. They're frying up like eggplant, to which they are related but you'd never know under non-wartime conditions. Tobacco and deadly nightshade and potatoes are also related...I'm wondering if I can perform any more alchemy. I might try if I don't die of squirrel cooties (yes, I cut off the squirrelled bits, yes, I wash them, and yes I fry them well).

Dale, I don't know how you're preparing your fried green tomatoes; most of the time when I've had them in restaurants they're breaded with flour.  However, our tradition here it to use course ground corn meal (the wimpy stuff you get at the grocery will do, but a nicely crafted milled cornmeal is even better).  We really prefer the corn meal to flour.  We tried it (and prefer it) with eggplant parmesan as well. 


Title: Re: Peregrines guard vinyards against starlings
Post by: dale on 16-Sep-09, 12:46:24 AM
Patti, I'm a more primitive and impatient chef. Granted, I'm usually POd at squirrels when making them. I just slice them thinly and fry them on oil, with salt and pepper, sometimes powdered chipotle pepper rather than black. When both sides are browned, I add a bit of water and cover them to steam. They're amazing, and, as I said, remarkably like eggplant. Maybe it's the very low-acid Mr. Stripey tomato, but prepared like that, they are not in the least sour!  But I love corn meal in general, and bet that if I were less enraged during the process of cooking, I'd use that as well.