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Title: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Yarak on 18-May-11, 12:00:23 PM
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Our friends at Kodak sent over a couple of pictures taken yesterday afternoon near 1PM local time, on the 18th floor balcony of the Kodak Tower.  The pictures show two adult Peregines, both about the same size, having a pretty intense-looking fight:
     
If you look closely at these images (click them to view larger versions)...



Link:
http://rfalconcam.com/imprinting/?p=1498 (http://rfalconcam.com/imprinting/?p=1498)


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Dumpsterkitty on 18-May-11, 12:05:05 PM
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Our friends at Kodak sent over a couple of pictures taken yesterday afternoon near 1PM local time, on the 18th floor balcony of the Kodak Tower.  The pictures show two adult Peregines, both about the same size, having a pretty intense-looking fight:
     
If you look closely at these images (click them to view larger versions)...



Link:
http://rfalconcam.com/imprinting/?p=1498 (http://rfalconcam.com/imprinting/?p=1498)
Yikes!  At least everyone is OK...


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Kris G. on 18-May-11, 12:15:01 PM
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Our friends at Kodak sent over a couple of pictures taken yesterday afternoon near 1PM local time, on the 18th floor balcony of the Kodak Tower.  The pictures show two adult Peregines, both about the same size, having a pretty intense-looking fight:
     
If you look closely at these images (click them to view larger versions)...



Link:
http://rfalconcam.com/imprinting/?p=1498 (http://rfalconcam.com/imprinting/?p=1498)
Yikes!  At least everyone is OK...

 :scaredblue:    :o


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: MAK on 18-May-11, 12:21:11 PM
WOW I guess I better check around Kodak Office more often. I assumed Beauty and Unity would stay near their nests during this time. This is one problem we don't need to be happening right now. There's enough drama already. We watchers are ready to spring into action if need be.  :pray:


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: carly on 18-May-11, 12:22:38 PM
Good grief, glad they have both been seen.  Maybe they don't like sharing Archer and both feel threatened by the situation.  Not all falcons may accept this type of situation I guess - not for human type reasons but reasons of caring for offspring and territory.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Dumpsterkitty on 18-May-11, 12:33:43 PM
WOW I guess I better check around Kodak Office more often. I assumed Beauty and Unity would stay near their nests during this time. This is one problem we don't need to be happening right now. There's enough drama already. We watchers are ready to spring into action if need be.  :pray:

Good grief, glad they have both been seen.  Maybe they don't like sharing Archer and both feel threatened by the situation.  Not all falcons may accept this type of situation I guess - not for human type reasons but reasons of caring for offspring and territory.

I'd think Kodak Tower would be part of Beauty's half of the territory, so she was defending her nest.  Unity needs to stay in her half...maybe she didn't realize where the line is.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: MAK on 18-May-11, 12:40:14 PM
WOW I guess I better check around Kodak Office more often. I assumed Beauty and Unity would stay near their nests during this time. This is one problem we don't need to be happening right now. There's enough drama already. We watchers are ready to spring into action if need be.  :pray:

Good grief, glad they have both been seen.  Maybe they don't like sharing Archer and both feel threatened by the situation.  Not all falcons may accept this type of situation I guess - not for human type reasons but reasons of caring for offspring and territory.

I'd think Kodak Tower would be part of Beauty's half of the territory, so she was defending her nest.  Unity needs to stay in her half...maybe she didn't realize where the line is.

Let's just hope Unity stays near her nest and doesn't come looking for Archer and Beauty does the same.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Lord G on 18-May-11, 12:55:27 PM
I'd think Kodak Tower would be part of Beauty's half of the territory, so she was defending her nest.  Unity needs to stay in her half...maybe she didn't realize where the line is.

My thoughts exactly.  I'd guess that Unity was ranging a little too far south and that her aunt decided to teach her where the line is.  Good news is that both falcons appear to have emerged unscathed from their little Donnybrook.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: loheron on 18-May-11, 12:58:35 PM
Those pictures are scary. Larry O



WOW I guess I better check around Kodak Office more often. I assumed Beauty and Unity would stay near their nests during this time. This is one problem we don't need to be happening right now. There's enough drama already. We watchers are ready to spring into action if need be.  :pray:

Good grief, glad they have both been seen.  Maybe they don't like sharing Archer and both feel threatened by the situation.  Not all falcons may accept this type of situation I guess - not for human type reasons but reasons of caring for offspring and territory.

I'd think Kodak Tower would be part of Beauty's half of the territory, so she was defending her nest.  Unity needs to stay in her half...maybe she didn't realize where the line is.

Let's just hope Unity stays near her nest and doesn't come looking for Archer and Beauty does the same.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Donna on 18-May-11, 01:04:47 PM
Oh my, those pics probably look more brutal than they are. Seems Unity is not in full incubation yet. I guess it was inevitable this was going to happen sooner or later. 2 BIG girls at it, guess they are no match for each other. Could have been just a warning brawl, as we all know Falcons mean to hurt if they really wanted to. Glad both are OK.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: jeanne on 18-May-11, 02:12:19 PM
Darn.  I see the reddish band.  So glad the Kodak folks saw this and let us know.  Unity needs to stay at Kodak and hopefully will be busy with her own eggs.  Ok, I know it is nature but that darn Archer has been at the root of territorial squabbles, now, with two females. At least Unity is ok; we know from Mariah, that Beauty can do a lot of damage


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: margaret on 18-May-11, 02:19:58 PM
Darn.  I see the reddish band.  So glad the Kodak folks saw this and let us know.  Unity needs to stay at Kodak and hopefully will be busy with her own eggs.  Ok, I know it is nature but that darn Archer has been at the root of territorial squabbles, now, with two females. At least Unity is ok; we know from Mariah, that Beauty can do a lot of damage


 :scaredblue:
The bands are pretty clear from the pictures.  Scary pictures, but I agree that if either one wanted to inflict lethal damage, she  could and would.  I hope the eggs hatch for Beauty and Unity starts hard incubation soon.    We really don't have  any idea of when Unity's first egg arrived?   Did n't some report from a Kodak Park worker say that there might be two?    If she is out and about, then a third egg is possible?
It would be tragic if something happened to either one. 
I agree, "that darn Archer".     
I thought Beauty's eggs would start to hatch by today.   Let's hope!   :pray:


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: margaret on 18-May-11, 02:35:18 PM
I just looked at the main cam archive from yesterday and it looks like B left the NB shortly after 12:30 but didn't return until 4:11.   Did anyone else see that too? She was gone along time.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Donna on 18-May-11, 02:47:48 PM
Is that blood on Unity?


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: carla on 18-May-11, 03:04:57 PM
Wow.............Archer what's next?  :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: margaret on 18-May-11, 03:38:37 PM
Is that blood on Unity?
I wondered the same thing, Donna, but didn't want to say.  Actually, I wasn't sure of what I was looking at on the ground underneath them and what appear to be a ledge.  I was unsure if it was my computer or the light etc.    Is anyone else wondering the same thing.
I think watchers saw Unity after that.
Looking at the pictures today, Archer and Beauty are both in and out of the nest box. 
When I looked at the archives from yesterday while was on the eggs from 12:30 - 4:11, he seemed jumpy and very protective of the eggs. 
I hope all is well at TS building and at KP.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Annette on 18-May-11, 03:49:04 PM
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Our friends at Kodak sent over a couple of pictures taken yesterday afternoon near 1PM local time, on the 18th floor balcony of the Kodak Tower.  The pictures show two adult Peregines, both about the same size, having a pretty intense-looking fight:
     
If you look closely at these images (click them to view larger versions)...


Link:
http://rfalconcam.com/imprinting/?p=1498 (http://rfalconcam.com/imprinting/?p=1498)
What a fight!  :o  :scaredblue:


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Lord G on 18-May-11, 04:09:41 PM
Is that blood on Unity?

There are a lot of compression artifacts in the images which make for plenty of chromatic aberrations and overall softness.  I wouldn't rely on them for any detailed examination, especially if you're looking for dark blood against dark feathers.  Our best source of information about Unity's appearance and health will be the watchers out at Kodak Park.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Paul Hamilton on 18-May-11, 04:56:30 PM
I agree with Lord G that its all chromatic aberration and compression artifacts. 

I'm surprised that the two of them got into a fight on Kodak Tower.  Why should two falcons land there and fight on the ledge rather than do some aerial sparring to establish a territorial boundary?  Does someone want to nest there?  Ideas?

Paul


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: jeanne on 18-May-11, 05:02:23 PM
I'm wondering where they were-- is that floor the one that has kind of a walk around where people used to stand.  It looks like a kind of landing. 


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Carol P. on 18-May-11, 05:11:55 PM
I agree with Lord G that its all chromatic aberration and compression artifacts. 

I'm surprised that the two of them got into a fight on Kodak Tower.  Why should two falcons land there and fight on the ledge rather than do some aerial sparring to establish a territorial boundary?  Does someone want to nest there?  Ideas?

Paul

I saw Unity yesterday at 3:45 pm and she was sleeping, head tucked under her wing.  Last night Dana and I watched her for a couple hours and she was flying around and landing.  She seemed fine.  MAK saw Beauty flying around this morning.  So it looks like all well, at least at this point.  Whew!


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Carol P. on 18-May-11, 05:13:40 PM
I'm wondering where they were-- is that floor the one that has kind of a walk around where people used to stand.  It looks like a kind of landing. 

It looks like it was on the floor of the balcony and the person was taking pictures through a window.  Have to wonder how loud the fight was.  Probably was REAL loud!   :scaredblue:


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Lord G on 18-May-11, 05:43:02 PM
I'm wondering where they were-- is that floor the one that has kind of a walk around where people used to stand.  It looks like a kind of landing.  

It's the 18th floor.  The top couple of floors have balconies that can be used for emergency evacuations if needed.  Other than that they are rarely accessed.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: jeanne on 18-May-11, 06:13:38 PM
I'm wondering where they were-- is that floor the one that has kind of a walk around where people used to stand.  It looks like a kind of landing.  

It's the 18th floor.  The top couple of floors have balconies that can be used for emergency evacuations if needed.  Other than that they are rarely accessed.

Thanks, Jim and Carol, I have been correcting papers all week and couldn't think of the word "balcony."   :D


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Shaky on 18-May-11, 07:04:26 PM
This reminds me of something that Mark Bezinque reported 9 days ago.

About 10 minutes ago I was meeting with someone in my office, telling him about the falcons. Just then one flies by the window, and the person I was meeting with said there were two. The two began to fight, engaging in a locked death spiral just to the south of Broad Street over the river. Beauty took off from the nest to join the fight.

Had to be one of the more spectacular sights I've seen out my window.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: MAK on 18-May-11, 07:20:50 PM
 :wave:  I saw all 3 of our Rochester falcons today and they all seemed just fine. Flying with no problem and no blood on any of them!  It's all good for now.  ;D


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: margaret on 18-May-11, 08:10:29 PM
I agree with Lord G that its all chromatic aberration and compression artifacts. 

I'm surprised that the two of them got into a fight on Kodak Tower.  Why should two falcons land there and fight on the ledge rather than do some aerial sparring to establish a territorial boundary?  Does someone want to nest there?  Ideas?

Paul

I saw Unity yesterday at 3:45 pm and she was sleeping, head tucked under her wing.  Last night Dana and I watched her for a couple hours and she was flying around and landing.  She seemed fine.  MAK saw Beauty flying around this morning.  So it looks like all well, at least at this point.  Whew!



WHEW is right!  Thank you all for your reassurance about our ladies in waiting.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: margaret on 18-May-11, 08:16:06 PM
This reminds me of something that Mark Bezinque reported 9 days ago.

About 10 minutes ago I was meeting with someone in my office, telling him about the falcons. Just then one flies by the window, and the person I was meeting with said there were two. The two began to fight, engaging in a locked death spiral just to the south of Broad Street over the river. Beauty took off from the nest to join the fight.

Had to be one of the more spectacular sights I've seen out my window.

That's right!  There is so much going on...not just with our falcons, that it's hard to keep track!    I remember reading Mark's post.   Yesterday was not the first time...probably...for B and U to meet.


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: margaret on 18-May-11, 08:22:12 PM
:wave:  I sa
 :wave:
w all 3 of our Rochester falcons today and they all seemed just fine. Flying with no problem and no blood on any of them!  It's all good for now.  ;D
:clap:
Thank you!
 :wave:


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: jeanne on 18-May-11, 08:22:48 PM
This reminds me of something that Mark Bezinque reported 9 days ago.

About 10 minutes ago I was meeting with someone in my office, telling him about the falcons. Just then one flies by the window, and the person I was meeting with said there were two. The two began to fight, engaging in a locked death spiral just to the south of Broad Street over the river. Beauty took off from the nest to join the fight.

Had to be one of the more spectacular sights I've seen out my window.

That's right!  There is so much going on...not just with our falcons, that it's hard to keep track!    I remember reading Mark's post.   Yesterday was not the first time...probably...for B and U to meet.

So I wonder if this means that it was really Beauty and Unity were in a battle and Archer joined or Archer and Unity were in a battle and Beauty joined.  


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: margaret on 18-May-11, 08:27:21 PM
This reminds me of something that Mark Bezinque reported 9 days ago.

About 10 minutes ago I was meeting with someone in my office, telling him about the falcons. Just then one flies by the window, and the person I was meeting with said there were two. The two began to fight, engaging in a locked death spiral just to the south of Broad Street over the river. Beauty took off from the nest to join the fight.

Had to be one of the more spectacular sights I've seen out my window.

That's right!  There is so much going on...not just with our falcons, that it's hard to keep track!    I remember reading Mark's post.   Yesterday was not the first time...probably...for B and U to meet.

So I wonder if this means that it was really Beauty and Unity were in a battle and Archer joined or Archer and Unity were in a battle and Beauty joined.  

And so we are left with the two important questions of the day:  WHO is battling  and WHO  is cheeping?! 
Oh wait!  And when will the eggs hatch?   Three important questions of the day!   :tired:
 


Title: Re: Beauty and Unity Throwdown at Kodak Tower?
Post by: Bird Crazy on 18-May-11, 10:25:21 PM
This reminds me of something that Mark Bezinque reported 9 days ago.

About 10 minutes ago I was meeting with someone in my office, telling him about the falcons. Just then one flies by the window, and the person I was meeting with said there were two. The two began to fight, engaging in a locked death spiral just to the south of Broad Street over the river. Beauty took off from the nest to join the fight.

Had to be one of the more spectacular sights I've seen out my window.

That's right!  There is so much going on...not just with our falcons, that it's hard to keep track!    I remember reading Mark's post.   Yesterday was not the first time...probably...for B and U to meet.

So I wonder if this means that it was really Beauty and Unity were in a battle and Archer joined or Archer and Unity were in a battle and Beauty joined.  
wasn't there another tiercel in the area at that time?