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Title: Baby Crows
Post by: huddiecat on 26-Jul-11, 08:40:59 AM
I have been frustrated and saddened this breeding year...no falcon babies in either Rochester or Syracuse.  So, I focused on my crows, and in particular, my crow family.  We had three babies this year, and I was so excited!  Unfortunately the smallest was plucked from the nest.  Our beautiful alpha (the biggest) had a run-in with a redtail, and not much was left. 

A couple of weeks ago we lost our old guy, the breeding male.  I spent hours searching for his body so we could determine cause of death, but no luck. 

Yesterday I could not locate my remaining baby crow, but I have not been able to find a body either.  I looked again this morning and still no sign of him.  Probably a redtail again, but who knows. 

Suzanne 


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: Donna on 26-Jul-11, 08:49:07 AM
I'm so sorry Suzanne, not a good year for sure. So much sadness and not enough gladness. I'm such a wreck when baby bird season arrives. Can't imagine a whole crow family disappearing.  :crying:


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: MAK on 26-Jul-11, 09:19:31 AM
 :hello: Long time no see Suzanne! I'm very sorry about your little crow family. The whole bird world has taken it's share of hits this year! I can report that the crows are coming back in earnest to Washington Square park to roost at night and lining the rail on top of the Frontier building when I arrive before dawn.  ;D


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: Bobbie Ireland on 26-Jul-11, 09:39:08 AM
Oh dear, Suzanne. More sad news this year. People here can get a bit ramped up about the various crow species we have, but we enjoy ours greatly. Great personalities and so intelligent.


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: huddiecat on 26-Jul-11, 10:37:20 AM
Hi MAK  :wave:
This has definitely been a crazy bird year!  Twice a hawk has snapped up a baby bluejay in my front yard!!  Oh the cries of the adults were just heart wrenching.  I know the hawks have to feed their young too, but could they please shop in someone else's yard! 

Glad to hear the downtown Rochester crows are thriving  :thumbsup:  Maybe some will migrate here during winter. 

Don and I are heading off to Cape Cod tomorrow...maybe we'll see a Peregrine!
Suzanne


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: Bobbie Ireland on 26-Jul-11, 10:45:54 AM
Safe trip, Don and Suzanne! May the PeFas delight you wherever you go.


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: MAK on 26-Jul-11, 10:56:15 AM
Hi MAK  :wave:
This has definitely been a crazy bird year!  Twice a hawk has snapped up a baby bluejay in my front yard!!  Oh the cries of the adults were just heart wrenching.  I know the hawks have to feed their young too, but could they please shop in someone else's yard! 

Glad to hear the downtown Rochester crows are thriving  :thumbsup:  Maybe some will migrate here during winter. 

Don and I are heading off to Cape Cod tomorrow...maybe we'll see a Peregrine!
Suzanne

Have a GREAT trip guys! Cape Cod is the bomb!!! Get those clam diggers out and have some fun!
 :foxbinocs: :pfalcon:

PS Sorry 'bout the baby Blue Jays! :heart:


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: Kris G. on 26-Jul-11, 01:42:09 PM
It's been a very sad year-so many losses in so many places.  I'm so sorry about your Crow family that I know, after talking with you last year, mean a lot to you. May they all fly free!


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: margaret on 27-Jul-11, 01:22:53 AM
:hello: Long time no see Suzanne! I'm very sorry about your little crow family. The whole bird world has taken it's share of hits this year! I can report that the crows are coming back in earnest to Washington Square park to roost at night and lining the rail on top of the Frontier building when I arrive before dawn.  ;D

It is sad to hear about your crows, but there is an abundance of crows around here.  I love crows.  They are so smart and so "clan-ish".  They LOVE their families!  The young and the oldsters stick together.      I love to see the crows in the park outside of GEVA Theater.  Is that Washington Park, MAK, and i don't know the name?    Late at night it seems there are thousands in the trees out there. 

Does anyone know how it got the name a "murder" of crows?  Isn't that the word?    I guess I've never looked into that....


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: MAK on 27-Jul-11, 05:23:23 AM
:hello: Long time no see Suzanne! I'm very sorry about your little crow family. The whole bird world has taken it's share of hits this year! I can report that the crows are coming back in earnest to Washington Square park to roost at night and lining the rail on top of the Frontier building when I arrive before dawn.  ;D

It is sad to hear about your crows, but there is an abundance of crows around here.  I love crows.  They are so smart and so "clan-ish".  They LOVE their families!  The young and the oldsters stick together.      I love to see the crows in the park outside of GEVA Theater.  Is that Washington Park, MAK, and i don't know the name?    Late at night it seems there are thousands in the trees out there. 

Does anyone know how it got the name a "murder" of crows?  Isn't that the word?    I guess I've never looked into that....

Yes Margaret, Washington Square Park is by Geva Theater and that's where all the crows congregate.  ;D


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: dale on 27-Jul-11, 09:16:37 AM
Does anyone know how it got the name a "murder" of crows?  Isn't that the word?    I guess I've never looked into that....

“A ‘murder’ of crows is based on the persistent but fallacious folk tale that crows form tribunals to judge and punish the bad behavior of a member of the flock. If the verdict goes against the defendant, that bird is killed (murdered) by the flock. The basis in fact is probably that occasionally crows will kill a dying crow who doesn’t belong in their territory or much more commonly feed on carcasses of dead crows. Also, both crows and ravens are associated with battlefields, medieval hospitals, execution sites and cemeteries (because they scavenged on human remains). In England, a tombstone is sometimes called a ravenstone.”

http://www.ascaronline.org/crowfaq.htm (http://www.ascaronline.org/crowfaq.htm)


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: Dot_Forrester on 27-Jul-11, 09:49:43 AM
Thanks, Dale, that was interesting, especially the ravenstone tidbit.  :mini-bird: I liked the info in your crow link, too.

Dot in PA


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: Bobbie Ireland on 27-Jul-11, 10:02:29 AM
And it is said that if the ravens ever leave the Tower of London, the Empire will fall. Thanks for the info, Dale.


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: Kris G. on 27-Jul-11, 10:08:20 AM
Does anyone know how it got the name a "murder" of crows?  Isn't that the word?    I guess I've never looked into that....

“A ‘murder’ of crows is based on the persistent but fallacious folk tale that crows form tribunals to judge and punish the bad behavior of a member of the flock. If the verdict goes against the defendant, that bird is killed (murdered) by the flock. The basis in fact is probably that occasionally crows will kill a dying crow who doesn’t belong in their territory or much more commonly feed on carcasses of dead crows. Also, both crows and ravens are associated with battlefields, medieval hospitals, execution sites and cemeteries (because they scavenged on human remains). In England, a tombstone is sometimes called a ravenstone.”

http://www.ascaronline.org/crowfaq.htm (http://www.ascaronline.org/crowfaq.htm)

Very interesting reading!  Thanks, Dale!


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: margaret on 28-Jul-11, 02:16:53 AM
Does anyone know how it got the name a "murder" of crows?  Isn't that the word?    I guess I've never looked into that....

“A ‘murder’ of crows is based on the persistent but fallacious folk tale that crows form tribunals to judge and punish the bad behavior of a member of the flock. If the verdict goes against the defendant, that bird is killed (murdered) by the flock. The basis in fact is probably that occasionally crows will kill a dying crow who doesn’t belong in their territory or much more commonly feed on carcasses of dead crows. Also, both crows and ravens are associated with battlefields, medieval hospitals, execution sites and cemeteries (because they scavenged on human remains). In England, a tombstone is sometimes called a ravenstone.”

http://www.ascaronline.org/crowfaq.htm (http://www.ascaronline.org/crowfaq.htm)

Very interesting reading!  Thanks, Dale!

Thank you, Dale!   You answered my question!


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: dale on 28-Jul-11, 08:45:13 AM
that's an interesting website, too. Lots of information


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: Patti from Kentucky on 29-Jul-11, 10:14:44 PM
And it is said that if the ravens ever leave the Tower of London, the Empire will fall. Thanks for the info, Dale.

On a nature show I saw a couple of years ago, and my memory is fuzzy on this now, they were working hard to protect the Tower of London Ravens from the possibility of getting West Nile Virus...maybe by keeping them indoors...I can't remember the details.  But it was related to that superstition and the national need to know that the tower's Ravens are safe.


Title: Re: Baby Crows
Post by: Bobbie Ireland on 30-Jul-11, 04:21:08 AM
And it is said that if the ravens ever leave the Tower of London, the Empire will fall. Thanks for the info, Dale.

On a nature show I saw a couple of years ago, and my memory is fuzzy on this now, they were working hard to protect the Tower of London Ravens from the possibility of getting West Nile Virus...maybe by keeping them indoors...I can't remember the details.  But it was related to that superstition and the national need to know that the tower's Ravens are safe.

Very interesting, Patti. Those ravens are quite something to see.