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2206  Other Nature Related Information / Other Nature Web Cams / Re: Mei Lan update on: 08-Feb-10, 07:12:05 PM
Mei Lan was cowered in her cage and refusing to eat, poor sweet girl.  So glad she is adjusting to this.  There is also a website featuring her prospective mates!  I'll look for it.
2207  Rochester Falcons / Rochester Falcon Discussion / Re: Lunch Time Falcon Watch on: 08-Feb-10, 07:08:17 PM
South side = Brighton (tall building on Elmwood Ave)
2208  Anything Else / Totally OT / Re: Super Bowl Commercials on: 08-Feb-10, 12:56:15 AM
My favorite commercial was just on.  The new Clydesdale commercial.   clap thumbsup 2thumbsup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgFHJRyz_MA   heart heart

I love this!!
2209  Anything Else / Totally OT / Re: Super Bowl Commercials on: 07-Feb-10, 08:05:00 PM
Thanks, Donna!!!  I'm not watching the superbowl either so it's cool to see an ad
2210  Other Nature Related Information / Raptor Web Cams / Re: WV NCTC Eagle nest is covered in snow on: 07-Feb-10, 10:48:29 AM
Poor momma eagle and babies crying
2211  Other Nature Related Information / Other Nature Web Cams / Re: Pandas to China on: 06-Feb-10, 12:16:04 AM
I somehow think something got lost in translation.  While Tai Shan may not be a "rock star" anymore, the pandas are well taken care of and loved by their keepers.

OK...Found some pictures of Tai Shan's arrival with this comment on the article...

"as a chinese panda lover
I can say with certainty that this reporting is not accurate.
I know WuDaiFu and his colleague make great contribution to Pandas

I suggest that she should find a better interpreter
if it doesn't work
she needs to improving her understanding and writing skills"  

Photos here

Hua Mei photos here

And Mei Sheng photos here  Please note the birthday photos with fruitcicles.

And, just because, one of my favorites I took of Tai Shan just after his first birthday



Thanks for posting this. Knowing about the efforts for Panda conservation, it makes me feel better to know that the conditions are better there than what the article described.

Ei, thank you for the beautiful pictures.  I feel so much better.  The writer of that horrible article is based in Beijing but she really seemed to have an axe to grind.  What a horrid thing to read especially after having Tai Shan move. 

And Kris, my heart definitely speaks first.  We love animals and want them to be protected.  I have been really upset about Tai.  I know he is needed to breed but it is such a cut off.  And we want these precious little beings to be safe and loved
2212  Rochester Falcons / Rochester Falcon Discussion / Re: Pictures from the Rfalconcam cameras on: 05-Feb-10, 04:42:26 PM
Then there are the implants hysterical

Uh hum!  Jeanne.  We promised to never speak about the implants.   secret2

Oh that's right happy secret2
2213  Other Nature Related Information / Other Nature Web Cams / Re: Pandas to China on: 05-Feb-10, 01:33:35 PM
I was wondering if it was a misguided attempt at tongue-in-cheek humor...didn't work for me!

When I get home I can post some other links I have saved-pictures of Hua Mei & Mei Sheng from San Diego.  I'm not a fan of their rushing the babies away from the mothers, but sometimes saving a species from extinction isn't pretty...

That would be great, Ei!  I am sad that Tai is gone but his species needs to be saved. 
2214  Rochester Falcons / Rochester Falcon Discussion / Re: Pictures from the Rfalconcam cameras on: 05-Feb-10, 12:50:33 PM
Then there are the implants hysterical
2215  Other Nature Related Information / Other Nature Web Cams / Re: Pandas to China on: 05-Feb-10, 12:48:30 PM
Ei,

What a great link!  They even have pictures of mei lan's possible "boyfriends!"

After seeing this link and reading others, I think it is clear that that writer had a very negative agenda. 

I remember reading about mao mao's keeper and was so touched by his genuine affection.  Not to mention the keepers who rescued all of the pandas and volunteers when that earthquake hit.  I am most relieved that these two little ones are in good hands.
2216  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Homeopathic vet nurses injured hawk back to health on: 05-Feb-10, 11:54:06 AM
heartwarming happy
2217  Other Nature Related Information / Other Nature Web Cams / Re: Pandas to China on: 05-Feb-10, 11:52:00 AM
I have been really sad about all of this.  I did find out that this article is probably skewed and that the keepers love the pandas.  Apparently, they were met by a crowd of enthusiasts when the fedex plane landed (fed ex paid for the flight and had a panda picture on the plane).

I hope that there will someday be a panda cam at those centers so we can see how these little ones are doing.  A group from the states tried to adopt tai shan but a chinese company already did.  Adoption provides for a panda's lifetime needs. 
2218  Other Nature Related Information / Other Nature Web Cams / Re: Pandas to China-- this made me sad on: 04-Feb-10, 11:21:59 PM
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/04/...

For Tai Shan, voyage to China is a trip to obscurity and sex
By Ariana Eunjung Cha
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, February 5, 2010; B04

BIFENGXIA PANDA BASE, CHINA -- Gone are the days of custom-made birthday cakes, waterfalls and fans cheering his every move. When Tai Shan the giant panda lands in his ancestral homeland on Friday, he will abruptly give up his celebrity status.

In the United States, Tai Shan was special, the only baby panda to survive past infancy in the nation's capital.

But at the panda center in the lush mountains of south-central China, he will be just one of 150. His purpose will no longer be to delight tourists; it will be to breed.

As a result, Chinese officials here say that they feel no need to make special accommodations for Tai Shan -- in housing, food or language -- and that if conditions are not to his liking, he'll have to adjust.

"Americans are too emotional about Tai Shan," said Wu Daifu, the 32-year-old zookeeper who was assigned to be the adolescent panda's principal feeder and friend.

Like other Chinese, Wu shakes his head in puzzlement over the months-long, tearful goodbyes following the announcement that the 4 1/2 -year-old Tai Shan would be leaving the National Zoo.

Tai Shan won't be put into the center's breeding program right away because the success rate is higher when males are 6 1/2 to 7 years old, making 2012 the ideal year. But he will start psychological training, researchers said. He'll be shown videos of pandas mating and get to hear tapes of female pandas calling for males.

There are high hopes for Tai Shan, who is named after the majestic mountain in central China that is the subject of countless poems and was once a retreat for royalty. His grandfather Pan Pan is the breeding program's star, having produced more than 100 offspring in his 24 years.

Loans of giant pandas to American zoos began in the 1970s as part of a strategy to engender goodwill, known as panda diplomacy. The endangered pandas became such a tourist draw that countries began to pay China to borrow the animals. Tai Shan's parents, Tian Tian and Mei Xiang, arrived in Washington on Dec. 6, 2000, on a $10 million, 10-year loan.

Under the terms of the deal, any cubs would be the property of China. Tai Shan, born in July 2005, was supposed to be sent to China when he was 2 but was granted several extensions. His time in Washington finally came to an end when Chinese officials said he was needed for the country's panda breeding program.

Tai Shan left on Thursday on a FedEx jet for the 8,642-mile, 14 1/2 -hour flight from Dulles to Chengdu in China's Sichuan Province.

With only an estimated 1,600 giant pandas left in the wild, China has been aggressively breeding pandas in captivity. It has employed fertility treatments for female pandas, shipped frozen panda sperm from zoo to zoo and coaxed each panda to mate with three or more others each breeding season.

Not everyone agrees with such methods. Some Chinese scientists, for instance, say that trying to create test-tube pandas unnecessarily creates pain for females who have to undergo surgery, and that similar results can be achieved through alternative means. Others say the money spent on whiz-bang technology at breeding centers would be better spent on habitat preservation.

But the program has achieved results: In 1999, the government had 123 pandas in breeding centers and zoos around the world. In 2009, the number had grown to 249.

The pressures that go with panda life in China are a far cry from his time at the National Zoo, where Tai Shan was a rock star despite the fact that all he did most days was lie on his back and eat bamboo.

The subject of a documentary, a model for zoo merchandise and the inspiration for a commemorative postage stamp, he drew millions of visitors to Washington each year. Mayor Adrian M. Fenty once referred to Tai Shan as the city's most important citizen.

His welcome in China is likely to be underwhelming.

In a village just 10 minutes from the panda center, residents said they know little of pandas, much less Tai Shan.

"I've only seen pandas on TV. I have never seen a real one," said Deng Guobin, a 35-year-old farmer. "My life doesn't have connections to pandas."

Wang Qiubo, 35, said she snuck into the panda park a few years ago on a whim but "I feel pandas are just so-so, not that interesting. . . . I have no idea who Tai Shan is. To be frank, I don't care."

In Washington, Tai Shan, who was once so small he was compared to a stick of butter but quickly grew into a 184-pound-bruiser, not only had the notoriety of a prince but lived like one. He spent his days in a 12,000-square-foot, multimillion-dollar custom-built home he shared with his parents. It included rocky outcrops for climbing, grottoes for privacy, weeping willows for shade and pools and a waterfall for cooling off.

The Bifengxia center is built in the magical bamboo forests of China that are featured in movies and that are the giant panda's natural habitat. His new home in Panda Villa No. 1 is a standard-issue 17-by-20-foot concrete hut attached to a 10,000-plus-square-foot outdoor play area. It has majestic views of the surrounding mountains and crisp, unpolluted air, but its climbing areas are falling apart. Zoo officials said Tai Shan will probably share the villa with another panda, although the two will be separated by a wall. His companion will most likely be a female named Snow White.

The facility has been crowded since 2008, when a devastating earthquake destroyed a nearby panda conservation center and the two had to merge.

"We are really suffering from a housing shortage," said Huang Yan, the center's assistant director of engineering.

About 90 percent of a typical panda's diet is bamboo, but in Washington, Tai Shan was allowed to feast on cooked sweet potatoes and, his favorite, pears. He also had a yearly birthday cake. In Bifengxia, Tai Shan will be served only bamboo along with steamed bread made of corn mixed with apples and carrots.

"We won't arrange a special menu for Tai Shan," Huang said. "We will give him the same menu as other pandas."

Tai Shan's travel companion, Mei Lan, a cub born in Atlanta who was heading to China on the same flight but will go to a different panda reserve, will have a special Mandarin tutor to help ease her transition. But the scientists at Bifengxia said total immersion after a days-long transition period will be the best thing for Tai Shan.

"I will speak Mandarin to him," said veterinarian Wang Chengdong. "If I speak Chinese, he will get used to Chinese and he can more easily blend in with the rest of the panda group."

Because Tai Shan is needed for the breeding program, officials said, there's little hope of his being allowed to return to the United States.

"If he goes back to the States, he will have limited choices for a spouse. So it will be good for him and the panda family if he stays in China," Huang said. But he added that after a one-month quarantine, Tai Shan will be allowed to greet visitors again. "His fans in the United States will be welcome to come here to see him again."
2219  Other Nature Related Information / Other Nature Web Cams / Re: Pandas to China on: 04-Feb-10, 08:46:32 PM
There was coverage by the DC stations and the washington post.  Reporters also went on the plane for a time as well. 

http://www.myfoxdc.com/

I hope that the panda reserve will send updates on the little guy
2220  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Great Blue Heron at Twilight on: 02-Feb-10, 10:40:32 PM
Beautiful!
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