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8236  Other Nature Related Information / Falcon Web Cams / Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands on: 19-Oct-12, 10:48:02 PM
More explanations!  Sad

Gemert, Thursday, October 18, 2012

Dear visitors, peregrine lovers,

We understand your disappointment, anger and questions arising therefrom. We also experienced emotions and ask us still wondering why this peregrine S2 has happened so close to her successful return to the wild. But that is generally not the best time to discuss decisions previously taken and are in peace which the VWG but has previously communicated that we would again answer.

There are many questions come to us and we hope that the following path to take.

It is suggested that the falconer journeys should be beaten.
The peregrine has more than a year in captivity. This is very long and inevitably leads to loss of condition at the falcon. Falconers know better than anyone that a good condition is crucial for certain species of raptors for successful hunting. They train their hunting birds daily and bring on condition otherwise it will not be successful.
falconer The question is very knowledgeable and has great merits in the field of protection of peregrine falcons. He also has extensive experience in rehabilitation of peregrine falcons, a quality that few in the Netherlands (yet) possess.
His training was solely focused on raising the level of its condition. Not like one wonders hunt, because they knew that al
The peregrine untrained release would apparently have been nice but the chances of that then out of sight of our perception of hunger would die would have been extremely high.
We have the need for this step, in the interest of peregrine S2, explicitly and extensively discussed with other experts such as BirdLife Netherlands, the Working Group Peregrine Netherlands, the veterinarian and the falconer and stand here, even now, still fully behind.

Date of death peregrine S2.
S2 Peregrine Tuesday 9 October geaast just yet and there was nothing special to observe. The reasons for this can be read in previous reports. Wednesday 10 October, she was found dead by the falconer which he further investigation infection with maggots found it on her lower body, here is also her cloaca. The falconer was and is devastated and informed us Wednesday 10 October that she was deceased, he's here still very difficult. Immediately after the discovery is the peregrine S2 freezer and discussed on Thursday 11 October, she frozen transferred to us. We have her placed in a cooler with freezer elements and come home again in the freezer. Iom to the vet's tomorrow Saturday October 13 autopsy this we peregrine S2 on Friday 12 October from the freezer. By directly freezing the maggots slain and does not change the section and the possible cause of death. When the section is a full gizzard found with the bait of Tuesday October 09. Further research and possible precise cause of death await us off.

Placement press release Eindhoven Dagblad Sunday, October 14, 2012
We have deliberately waited to post a press release on our website because we began the preliminary findings of the section S2 wanted so we could correctly informed. In consultation with the bird sanctuary is Sunday contacted the ED for an appointment to the death to make known after we would have published on our website. Here's something wrong and the ED directly to publication and hereby have passed an incorrect data published of her death. After observation of this publication we have direct our full press release posted on our website after the ED have changed their press release stating details. We will not blaming anyone that this is gone but had that love differently, understandable emotions play a role.

Breaking a wing or staartpen.
It is only natural that a bird wing or staartpen breaks. One often sees in raptors in flight there is a pin missing. In itself this is not a problem, just us and the falconer wild peregrine S2 with no risk and hair in the best possible working condition and plumage her freedom back. The breaking of this wing pin has nothing to do with the expertise of the falconer or death of peregrine S2!

Rebellion peregrine S2
This has nothing to do with her ​​death, or damage to its outer wing pin, this is normal behavior and see earlier reports on our website.

Time of infection and death of S2.
Infection by a green blowfly probably has 24-48 hours before her death occurred. This contamination was not observed by the falconer and is usually only visible when it is too late, often after death. See the various publications on the Internet.

What happens to her body.
Peregrine S2 is currently stored in a freezer. We are still in discussions about a respectful way we want her for eternity appropriated.

We understand that you're all very upset and mourn the death of peregrine S2 and many questions as we only ask you confidence to speak out about the doctors, the falconers and the many volunteers who are so used for the recovery of peregrine S2. Despite their great efforts, fate struck unexpectedly and has not to be that she has regained her freedom. Deep respect and gratitude from our side for those who have care of peregrine S2, donors and those who support us through the many and acknowledgments have supported the death of peregrine S2.

We will keep you informed.

 

Vogelwerkgroep Gemert,

Arno Teunissen and Martin Finch
8237  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 05:44:23 PM
That was fun! I would never have guessed that myself! Good try all!  clap
8238  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 05:02:47 PM
Black crowned night heron



 newyearbd autumn yes yahoo

That be it! Go Kris!!
8239  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 04:25:45 PM
A bird of prey? A water bird!

Not a bird of prey!
8240  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Great Dane birthing room on: 19-Oct-12, 03:44:45 PM
OK, so the one  I saw this am must have been #2 that crossed over. Sad
8241  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 03:36:53 PM
I need a parent for identify.  Sad

Oh no, that will give it away!  harhar
8242  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 03:24:40 PM
Any crow?

 mini-bird no
8243  Anything Else / Totally OT / Re: Welcome Jan Miller on: 19-Oct-12, 01:08:16 PM
HI and Jan
8244  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 12:37:27 PM

Cool bird Annette but sorry, nope!
8245  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 12:23:31 PM
Hoatzin?

 scared blue What's that?
8246  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 11:21:01 AM
Got a side view?  Wink  hysterical

Nope, trust me, I had NO clue what this was. Even when I knew, I said "no way!"
8247  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 11:17:04 AM
Vulture of some sort?

 no whistle
8248  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 11:11:41 AM
stupid What are those curled up things? Long toes?

LOL Nora, I have no idea!
8249  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 10:56:27 AM
Penguin?

 penguin no
8250  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Who knows this chick? on: 19-Oct-12, 10:32:35 AM
Some kind of bat?

 bat no
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