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20-Apr-23, 08:14:00 AM
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Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Pale Male
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on: 12-Sep-12, 12:04:03 PM
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I got through to the AMNH and talked to a really nice lady -I pressed the button for volunteers and she forwarded my call to a not so very nice woman but she did listen to what I had to say. I also left a voice mail with the finance fellow there and have also sent out the emails.
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Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Pale Male
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on: 12-Sep-12, 11:09:22 AM
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I have been unable to reach either organization on the phone so I sent emails instead. The original post included only the Museum of Natural History's email. Here is an email contact address I found elsewhere for the Metropolitan Museum of Art. The more of us who call or write, the better. They may be able to block phone calls, but filling up their email sites should be an equally good way to get their attention. What a disgrace! communications@metmuseum.orgDot in PA Thanks, Dot!
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Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Pale Male
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on: 11-Sep-12, 07:43:55 PM
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WOW!! I'll call! I'm glad one of them stopped using the poison but it's not enough. Sheesh, don't they get it? MNH, hello? Preserve what they have but kill what's outside their doors. I don't get it. Hope they change their minds.  I'm calling too! What's happened to these poor birds is a crime!
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Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Pale Male
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on: 11-Sep-12, 06:56:46 PM
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I received this email today from the organization that has put up the petition to stop the use of rat poison in Central Park that's killing the RTH's. Please call tomorrow! First, I want to thank each and every-one of you for supporting and signing this petition!
I want to let you know that the Central Park Conservancy is not using poison at this time.
That is the good news.
However, the bad news is, since this petition was launched, we unfortunately now have strong reasons to believe that Pale Male’s third baby “Opera Star” and Pale Male’s mate, Zena, have been poisoned and died.
As you know, these latest poisoning come on top of the awful discovery that Pale Male's and Zena's first two offspring were so ill, they had to be rescued from the vicinity of the Metropolitan Museum of Art. While in rehab, they tested positive for super toxic rat poisons. Despite the serious harm the rodenticide has caused, The American Museum of Natural History and The Metropolitan Museum of Art, still refuse to stop using it.
We are now issuing a call to action: Tomorrow, Wednesday, September 12, 2012, please make a call to both these institutions and let them know that you are very concerned about their use of rat poison and urge them to use alternative methods. There are solar garbage cans, rodent proof cans, and other sanitation control methods that would resolve the problem.
Just one phone call can help save all the Hawks in Central Park. Please make these two calls on Wednesday. If each of us pitch in, our voices will be heard.
If all you receive is a voice mail, please leave a message.(They keep disconnecting their numbers, but the main ones still work). Thank you for your concern and willingness to help stop these needless deaths. Save the Hawks...Stop the Poison! stopthepoison@aolcom
The American Museum of Natural History: Ask for: Museum Director Ellen V. Futter, email: futter@amnh.org Phone: 212-769-5100, 212-769-5102-finance, membership(212) 769-5606 Also-Karen Quigley, Office of the President email: kquigley@amnh.org
Metropolitan Museum of Art Phone: 212-535-7710 press * then “0” ask for "Emily Rafferty" ( President), leave message with anyone.
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Rochester Falcons / Rochester Falcon Discussion / Re: 2012 Pictures from the Rfalconcam Cameras
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on: 10-Sep-12, 07:14:04 PM
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There are a lot of falcon purists that don't support the cross breeding that was done - they consider it a pollution of the original North American falcon genes (the Anatum)
I have to wonder if they would have been happier to have "pure" genetics in the only anatums left in the natural history museum along side the passenger pigeon. As I understand it there were so few anatums left there would have been far too much close relative interbreeding to restore a healthy population. I believe most captive bred birds were from a very few ancestors. And we can see that the anatum traits are still strong. Time will tell if it becomes more prevalent. Now the cross breeding between peregrines & gyrfalcons is another issue altogether... I wish you could have all been in Edmonton when Gordon gave his talk at our fund raiser. they call him the falcon guru because he has been with falcons since he was a teenager. He was involved in the come back of the falcons in Wainwright Alberta.I am sure this is well documented . they gathered up the last remaining falcons and started breeding . His talk explains the whole process of how they started the breeding etc. All the trials and errors and then the success. He talks with such a passion and love of falcons. That sounds so interesting! All that you and Carly have shared about Falcons is much appreciated. 
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Rochester Falcons / Rochester Falcon Discussion / Re: 2012 Pictures from the Rfalconcam Cameras
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on: 10-Sep-12, 09:33:22 AM
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 Beauty on FCT, no Orion or DC yet. DC was apparently at BS this am. Sigh! Had a feeling we were going to be seeing less of the little guy soon. He's been getting more independent every day. Seems way too soon for him to leave. According to Froona, they start leaving 8-12 weeks after fledging and it's just shy of 6 weeks since Orion fledged plus they were still giving him food up until a couple days ago. Of course, there's always the rule breaker!
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Rochester Falcons / Rochester Falcon Discussion / Re: 2012 Pictures from the Rfalconcam Cameras
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on: 09-Sep-12, 03:23:46 PM
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Poor DotCA, he does look a bit rough doesn't he? He's still got the same 'deer in the headlights' look his dad sports though so easy for me to recognize him  Both DC and Beauty have a heavy strain of Anatum falcon in them as is evidenced by their salmon coloring which is unique to that sub-species. Beauty in fact can be traced back through her parents to one of the females that was originally part of the falcon release program here in Canada. I think her coloring is gorgeous especially in the morning light  There are many different sub-species of pefa but Anatum's are in my opinion the most beautiful. The web cams don't do the coloring justice, it's really quite stunning and very special to see now a days due to the cross breeding of species over the years. There are a lot of falcon purists that don't support the cross breeding that was done - they consider it a pollution of the original North American falcon genes (the Anatum) and over the years many old time birders that came to visit our site were stunned to see Angel's salmon coloring because they feared that the Anatums had gone extinct or had that feature bred out of them. I don't know enough about falcon genetics to really have an opinion on this other than what I've read but Rochester having Beauty here is very special and given DC's Anatum strain, little Orion is made even more special genetically speaking at least. Thanks for explaining this about Anatums! Beauty is beautiful-love her coloring and ang with DC's genes, Orion is and will be gorgeous!
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