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4231  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Chimps outwit humans on: 05-Sep-10, 07:06:09 AM
I seem to be finding lots of primate/behaviour stories these days... always fascinating.


Wild chimps outwit human hunters
Matt Walker, Editor, Earth News

Wild chimpanzees are learning how to outwit human hunters. Across Africa, people often lay snare traps to catch bushmeat, killing or injuring chimps and other wildlife. But a few chimps living in the rainforests of Guinea have learnt to recognise these snare traps laid by human hunters, researchers have found. More astonishing, the chimps actively seek out and intentionally deactivate the traps, setting them off without being harmed.

The discovery was serendipitously made by primatologists Mr Gaku Ohashi and Professor Tetsuro Matsuzawa who were following chimps living in Bossou, Guinea to study the apes' social behaviour...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8962000/8962747.stm
4232  Anything Else / Totally OT / The brilliance of Brian Friel on: 04-Sep-10, 10:08:00 AM
I'm a big fan of NPR when I am home - it is never off! But one thing they do not do - at least on ROC's WXXI - is drama. On the BBC's Radio 4 right now is the brilliant "Translations" by Brian Friel... (Some may know him through the likes of "Philadelphia, here I come!".) No posts from me for the duration! Anyone who has not had the pleasure is in for the most amazing dramatic experience. One actually believes that some of the dramatis personae are not speaking English. Seek it out. I saw it first in the 1980s, featuring a young fellow called Liam Neeson...
4233  Anything Else / Totally OT / Re: Just for Funnnnnn!! on: 04-Sep-10, 09:56:36 AM
After my last post, I said to myself:

That Donna wants it to be a big blob!

So no wonder it would not enlarge! Anyway, I am no farther ahead after your broad hint...

(My poor eyes, you know! And just how long will she be using that excuse, you may wonder...)
4234  Anything Else / Totally OT / Re: Just for Funnnnnn!! on: 04-Sep-10, 09:08:33 AM

Boo-hoo! When I try to enlarge, even a little, I get a big blob... maybe it IS a big blob? Ok... sea slug... (tell me it's not pigeon poo...)
4235  Rochester Falcons / Falcon Watches / Re: Twitter on: 04-Sep-10, 08:00:28 AM
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MAKfalcon (MAK): Ladies first! A just hoping B leaves him a tiny morsel


The way to a man's heart, Dear Beauty!
4236  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Animal Intelligence on: 04-Sep-10, 06:41:05 AM
Ooops! Those "Thanks" should have gone to both Donna and Annette! paperbag

(The vapours of cleaning products have got into my nose... but on that topic... I am now using LOTS more "green cleaning" products. Anyone else? And I make them myself. A mixture of olive oil, distilled vinegar and dish detergent makes a splendid wood cleaner... and no chemicals! WHEEEEE! clap)
4237  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Animal Intelligence on: 04-Sep-10, 06:34:52 AM
Thanks for those links, Annette. I will fire up the Little Mac later and have a look.

(Meanwhile, however, I must do cleaning things in the kitchen... ick! Why can't I ever find an intelligent primate when I need one?? Actually... when I think about that... I reckon they would be far too intelligent to bother!)
4238  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: Animal Intelligence on: 04-Sep-10, 06:30:23 AM
clap  I love Skidboot!  The hedgehog was very cute. Thanks Donna. Bobbie I think sometimes humans are such idiots that they make animals look intelligent.   lol

MAK, did you find the Time magazine feature? Great insights. And as for humans making animals look intelligent? You got it in one! Isn't it amazing that a chimp would describe a flood as "big water" both amazing and so poetic?
4239  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Animal Intelligence on: 04-Sep-10, 05:07:48 AM
The piece below refers to a longer feature in Time magazine... I can't seem to find the link now, but it's from 16 August... access it if you can, as it is fascinating.



Increased knowledge of animals' intelligence shines light on how we treat them

We dismiss animals as having little or no intelligence or self- awareness but scientists are learning this is not universally true, writes WILLIAM REVILLE 

SCIENCE is only beginning to understand the inner lives of non-human animals but the information gleaned so far is fascinating. Not only are some animal species unexpectedly clever, but they also show other mental complexity that resembles the inner lives of humans, raising serious questions about how we treat animals. Recent research in this area was summarised by Jeffrey Kluger in  Time magazine on August 16th.

Traditionally humans felt they had a free hand regarding how they treated animals. For a start, the Bible grants humans “dominion over the beasts of the field”. And then animals seemed qualitatively vastly inferior to humans. Animals didn’t use tools or language as humans do. Animals didn’t suffer like humans, unable to grieve or fearfully (or joyously) anticipate the future or regret the past. Animals couldn’t empathise, or ponder their own mortality.

Humans are undoubtedly unique and “special”, but, research has now qualified many human/animal distinctions, at least in certain cases. Take language, for example. Although animal vocal chords cannot articulate words as those of humans do, there are several examples of apes successfully learning rudimentary language. Kluger describes Kanzi, an ape at a research centre in Iowa, who can talk to you by pointing at words on a plastic sheet. Kanzi knows 384 words and uses them appropriately. For example, after seeing flooding, Kanzi spontaneously described it by sequentially picking the words “big” and “water” from his list of words.

Several animal species use tools, the most proficient being the corvids, a family of birds that includes crows, ravens, rooks, magpies etc. Crows will bend a wire to make a hook to fish food out of a plastic tube. And, recently, a raven was observed dropping stones into a pitcher of water to raise the water enough (Archimedes' Principle) to allow the bird to drink. See the Huffington Post’s clever crows at http://url.ie/7cl1 and Wired’s rooks at http://url.ie/7cl4 for some amazing video footage.

A bird’s brain is a so small that the term “bird brain” is used to express derision and, to compound matters, the bird brain has no cortex, which is the corrugated outer layer of the mammalian brain where cognitive functions reside. Apparently, the bird is able to use the basal ganglia, a primitive brain structure also present in mammals, in a very efficient manner. The birds also live in complex bird societies with stable group bonds. This co-operative living seems to boost intelligence. On the other hand, animals such as cattle that live in herds, with little social structure, show very limited intelligence.

Generosity has been demonstrated in Capuchin monkeys where a monkey, given a choice between two tokens, one releasing two slices of apple for himself and the other releasing one slice each for himself and another monkey, prefers the latter option when the other monkey is a companion. This is believed to arise from the sense of pleasure experienced in giving – reward centres in the human brain become active when the subject donates to charity.

Can animals feel love, hope, grief, etc? Elephants and apes appear to mourn their dead, remaining with a dead companion’s body for days. And we all know the story of Greyfriars Bobby, the little dog in Edinburgh who loved and missed his dead master so much that he spent the remainder of his life sitting on his master’s grave.

How aware are animals that they exist as separate entities from other animals?

The standard test here is whether an animal can recognise its reflection in a mirror for what it is. For example, a dog thinks his reflection is another dog. Only a few species pass the mirror test, including apes, dolphins and elephants. If you apply a daub of paint to one of these animals and show them their reflection in a mirror, apes and elephants will touch the paint daub with their finger or trunk, rather than touch the reflection.

Dolphins manoeuvre their position to see the reflection better.

Smartness is approximately proportional to the ratio of brain weight to body weight but only a rough hierarchy of animal brain power can presently be constructed.

The smartest non-human animals include the great apes and the cetaceans (whales, dolphins, porpoises etc.), animals with big brains that live in complex societies; next come the tool-using corvids (crows, ravens, magpies etc.), with their strong social ties; next are the social carnivores that hunt co-operatively, eg lions, hyenas, etc; then herd animals such as cows; and at the bottom are animals like bivalves (cockles, mussels, oysters etc.) that show little evidence of anything beyond automatic behaviour and are probably not even conscious.

This new understanding of animals’ inner lives calls on us to show many animals much more respect than they currently receive.

At a minimum, factory farming in poor conditions of animals above the level of bivalves, and using them to test cosmetics, seems unjustifiable. And reflection on our new knowledge should surely motivate us to go far beyond such minimal measures.

William Reville is UCC’s professor of biochemistry and public awareness of science officer –http: //understandingscience.ucc.ie
4240  Rochester Falcons / Rochester Falcon Offspring / Re: Search for Falcon ID at Kodak Leads To Good News on: 03-Sep-10, 09:22:58 AM


Actually Bobbie, I thought the same thing when I first read it. I too thought A was in Kodak Park. Yes, she is in Michigan and possibly a Midwest Falcon is in Kodak Park? Role reversal? Now that leaves, "where's Mariah?".
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Thanks, Donna. This almost (?) makes it even more fascinating...
4241  Rochester Falcons / Rochester Falcon Offspring / Re: Search for Falcon ID at Kodak Leads To Good News on: 03-Sep-10, 08:09:30 AM
Had a chance to read the Imprints piece more thoroughly since my last post - and I am wondering: Will Alkyonis stay around the area, or is it more likely that she will be driven off by Archer & Beauty? How much overlap is there in falcon territories? And of course we may not know this, but has Alkyonis found a mate? As usual, wild things give us more questions than answers. One of the reasons they fascinate us, I think.

Bobbie, Alkyonis is in Michigan, so no worries about territory disputes with Archer and Beauty.  The new falcon at the Eastman Business Park (EBP) is more than 5 miles north and west from downtown Rochester.  If it decides to stay I don't think there will be any problems with Archer and Beauty.  We don't know the gender of the EBP bird, but I'd guess it's female, based on a report we received from the Kodak folks who saw it stating that it was "dining on pigeon".  Time will tell if it attracts a mate to that site.  We've let the DEC know it's there, so if it stays around they'll hopefully work with the Health, Safety and Environment officials at Kodak to erect a nest box.

We've asked the folks at the Macomb County Audubon for more information about Alkyonis's situation; whether she has a mate, where she's staying, and so on.  We'll post whatever they send us, so stay tuned.

Thanks, Donna! You know, I read that piece a few times and I still did not get it right! Kept wondering what Michigan had to do with things... paperbag

So. In a nutshell: Alkyonis is in Michigan. And another falcon has been sighted in ROC. Right?!
4242  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / Re: The times, they HAVE changed! on: 03-Sep-10, 06:37:26 AM
Ohhhhhh, yes - indeed he is... still!
4243  Other Nature Related Information / General Nature Discussion / The times, they HAVE changed! on: 03-Sep-10, 06:22:28 AM
I put this in General Nature discussion, tho it could be considered OT... Makes me think of a nephew who was visiting the Grand Canyon with his family... he kept getting perilously near the edge, and when his mom (my sister) pleaded with him to "Get back here!", he responded: "I thought we were here to have some fun!"

Technology Leads More Park Visitors Into Trouble

by LESLIE KAUFMAN

Cathy Hayes was cracking jokes as she recorded a close encounter with a buffalo on her camera in a recent visit to Yellowstone National Park.

In a video on YouTube, Cathy Hayes showed her injuries and recounted being charged by a buffalo at Yellowstone National Park while filming a companion. “Watch Donald get gored,” she said as her companion hustled toward a grazing one-ton beast for a closer shot with his own camera.

Seconds later, as if on cue, the buffalo lowered its head, pawed the ground and charged, injuring, as it turns out, Ms. Hayes.

“We were about 30, 35 feet, and I zoomed in on him, but that wasn’t far enough, because they are fast,” she recounted later in a YouTube video displaying her bruised and cut legs.

The national parks’ history is full of examples of misguided visitors feeding bears, putting children on buffaloes for photos and dipping into geysers despite signs warning of scalding temperatures.

But today, as an ever more wired and interconnected public visits the parks in rising numbers — July was a record month for visitors at Yellowstone — rangers say that technology often figures into such mishaps...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/science/earth/22parks.html?_r=1&ref=earth
4244  Rochester Falcons / Rochester Falcon Offspring / Re: Search for Falcon ID at Kodak Leads To Good News on: 03-Sep-10, 04:52:39 AM
Had a chance to read the Imprints piece more thoroughly since my last post - and I am wondering: Will Alkyonis stay around the area, or is it more likely that she will be driven off by Archer & Beauty? How much overlap is there in falcon territories? And of course we may not know this, but has Alkyonis found a mate? As usual, wild things give us more questions than answers. One of the reasons they fascinate us, I think.
4245  Rochester Falcons / Rochester Falcon Offspring / Re: Search for Falcon ID at Kodak Leads To Good News on: 03-Sep-10, 04:06:27 AM
The things I miss overnight! Such excitement for the Watchers - and those watching them.

Slainte, Alkyonis!

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