Title: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 26-Jan-13, 11:07:01 PM
http://www.ustream.tv/eagles4kids (http://www.ustream.tv/eagles4kids) Here is Lucy and Larry, Lucy has major problems with her feet. Both of them are deformed from something and they are not certain what caused this.
:(
This was Dec 19, her left Talon looks much better today.
It's very sad to watch but she's dealing. I don't think she can perch so she sleeps in the nest. Larry brings her food to the nest but she also goes down to the ground to pick at the carcass that is put there for her.
Larry & Lucy.
Hope she heals but will never be the same, her right foot is a stub and the other seems to be healing a bit. Praying they have a successful nesting season but it may be a bit hard on her.
http://youtu.be/78_j3LvefPg (http://youtu.be/78_j3LvefPg) :heart:
Thank you Kris G for showing me the way!
:(
This was Dec 19, her left Talon looks much better today. It's very sad to watch but she's dealing. I don't think she can perch so she sleeps in the nest. Larry brings her food to the nest but she also goes down to the ground to pick at the carcass that is put there for her.
Larry & Lucy. Hope she heals but will never be the same, her right foot is a stub and the other seems to be healing a bit. Praying they have a successful nesting season but it may be a bit hard on her.
http://youtu.be/78_j3LvefPg (http://youtu.be/78_j3LvefPg) :heart:
Thank you Kris G for showing me the way!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 26-Jan-13, 11:14:05 PM
Official Press Release For Project Lucy ~
As many of you have seen, Lucy has returned to the nest for significant time in the last few days. We have been watching closely since we first suspected in late November that she might have an injury to her foot. These recent visits to the nest since Sunday (12/16/12) have given us the opportunity for some very close up examination of her feet. Using the PTZ camera to get clear views of her feet has allowed us to draw some conclusions about her condition that we were unable to do up to now.
What we have seen does not look good. In these images it is clear that the toes of the right foot are dead tissue. This is something we suspected might be the case back in November when we had only glimpses of what appeared to be gray or missing toes. Since at that time we could not be certain of the extent of injury from those first images, we embarked on a project to try to capture Lucy in order to examine and evaluate her condition. Despite being prepared to capture her at one of three sites in the area, we have been unable to capture Lucy, as she remains able to fly. We have continued to keep track of her as much as possible through direct observation. We have continued to see both Lucy, and her mate Larry, in the area of the nest. Sunday 12/16/12 was the first time she returned to the nest and we were able to capture enough close images of her feet to draw conclusions about her condition.
After thorough expert review of the video and still photo images, we have determined that there is no treatment available for Lucy. It is not possible to repair tissue that has died. As noted above, it is likely that even when we first suspected something was wrong, the tissue was already dead. In all likelihood, the injury occurred some months in advance of our first suspecting something was wrong, perhaps as early as August or September. Due to the time of year, in the fall of the year, Lucy simply was not regularly present in the nest. Consequently, we did not become aware of the injury until the toes had already died. Even had we been able to capture her at our first indication of injury, there is no treatment that could have saved her toes. As discussed in previous posts, an eagle’s toes and feet are critical to her survival. Not only are healthy feet vital for hunting, but as perching birds, eagles spend much of their time on their feet. Injuries to the feet are devastating for birds of prey.
The team that assembled to attempt to determine what happened to Lucy, and if possible capture and evaluate her, has determined that a capture is no longer the best option. Since there is no available treatment for Lucy, a capture is an unnecessary intrusion into the life of this wild bird. If we were able to examine her in person, we might find some clue as to what the cause of injury might be, but knowing we cannot save her foot makes the risks of capture for Lucy far greater than any advantage for her. Without treatment options to repair the damage to her foot, she would be left with one foot which is an untenable condition for any large bird. For Lucy, or any bird with the extent of injuries that Lucy exhibits, if she were to come into human care, the most likely outcome would almost certainly be euthanasia.
We have decided against this course for several reasons. First, we do not have reason to believe that Lucy is in pain. Dead tissue is not painful. The toes on her right foot are dead. We have also observed some swelling on her left foot, likely as result of her having to compensate, using the left foot to support most of her weight for many weeks. It is difficult to know whether this is painful for her, but based on her behavior, she is not in severe distress. Lucy continues to fly, eat, defecate and preen. These are all good signs of her overall well-being. Somehow, she is managing despite these serious impairments and adapting to her disability.
We will continue to monitor the situation closely. If Lucy’s condition deteriorates to the point that she is in severe distress, or is on the ground and cannot fly, we would move in to assist her. If Lucy were completely unable to manage, she could not have survived this long. Somehow she has adapted to her new abilities. It is at least possible that she could breed. A female eagle spends many months on the nest, without having to perch or hunt, as the male supplies most of the food for the family.
We have no desire to create a false hope. Lucy’s condition is dire. In all likelihood, the toes on her right foot will soon drop off. Again, they are dead tissue and have been dead for some time. There is no pain associated with dead tissue. Although she has managed for sometime following this injury, she may not be able to do so much longer. Winter is a difficult time even for healthy wildlife. Food is scarce and weather conditions test even a vigorous animal’s strength. Due to her limitations, Lucy will likely be eating more carrion, which will increase her risk of exposure to lead, a common cause of death in wild eagles. Lucy may not survive the winter.
Eagles4Kids will continue to stream video from the nest camera. Wildlife cams offer us an opportunity to view the life of eagles and other species as never before. As educators, we all believe that whatever the outcome for Lucy, ultimately, we will learn something. Life for eagles and all wild species is precarious. In the first season of Eagles4Kids, students and viewers learned a difficult lesson after the original female at the nest disappeared before laying eggs and no young were produced that year. However, we saw the perseverance of nature when Lucy and Larry successfully fledged two young last year. We are already learning that wild animals can adapt in ways that seem impossible to us. So, these eagles we have become so attached to may yet have something to teach us from this current situation.
We are grateful to everyone for their care and concern for Lucy and all wildlife. We, like all of you, care about Lucy as an individual bird. But we also recognize our limitations. Even though we may wish we could help her, we know that there’s nothing to be done right now.
We especially thank you for your patience. This process has been complex, time-consuming and at times heart wrenching. Each of the partners, all of whom have volunteered their time to this project, have needed to carefully evaluate the information, discuss and decide on next steps. We know that has meant that often the viewer, those of you so engaged with Lucy throughout these recent web cam seasons, have been left wondering what was happening. We have done our best to update everyone along the way. We are committed to communicating openly and honestly about this process, but at times kept the process private so that each of the partners could do their best work. We will do our best to share with you at this time the images and information we used to come to these conclusions. Thank you for your continued patience and care.
Eagles4Kids
National Eagle Center
Raptor Education Group, Inc (REGI)
Raptor Services, LLC
From fb
As many of you have seen, Lucy has returned to the nest for significant time in the last few days. We have been watching closely since we first suspected in late November that she might have an injury to her foot. These recent visits to the nest since Sunday (12/16/12) have given us the opportunity for some very close up examination of her feet. Using the PTZ camera to get clear views of her feet has allowed us to draw some conclusions about her condition that we were unable to do up to now.
What we have seen does not look good. In these images it is clear that the toes of the right foot are dead tissue. This is something we suspected might be the case back in November when we had only glimpses of what appeared to be gray or missing toes. Since at that time we could not be certain of the extent of injury from those first images, we embarked on a project to try to capture Lucy in order to examine and evaluate her condition. Despite being prepared to capture her at one of three sites in the area, we have been unable to capture Lucy, as she remains able to fly. We have continued to keep track of her as much as possible through direct observation. We have continued to see both Lucy, and her mate Larry, in the area of the nest. Sunday 12/16/12 was the first time she returned to the nest and we were able to capture enough close images of her feet to draw conclusions about her condition.
After thorough expert review of the video and still photo images, we have determined that there is no treatment available for Lucy. It is not possible to repair tissue that has died. As noted above, it is likely that even when we first suspected something was wrong, the tissue was already dead. In all likelihood, the injury occurred some months in advance of our first suspecting something was wrong, perhaps as early as August or September. Due to the time of year, in the fall of the year, Lucy simply was not regularly present in the nest. Consequently, we did not become aware of the injury until the toes had already died. Even had we been able to capture her at our first indication of injury, there is no treatment that could have saved her toes. As discussed in previous posts, an eagle’s toes and feet are critical to her survival. Not only are healthy feet vital for hunting, but as perching birds, eagles spend much of their time on their feet. Injuries to the feet are devastating for birds of prey.
The team that assembled to attempt to determine what happened to Lucy, and if possible capture and evaluate her, has determined that a capture is no longer the best option. Since there is no available treatment for Lucy, a capture is an unnecessary intrusion into the life of this wild bird. If we were able to examine her in person, we might find some clue as to what the cause of injury might be, but knowing we cannot save her foot makes the risks of capture for Lucy far greater than any advantage for her. Without treatment options to repair the damage to her foot, she would be left with one foot which is an untenable condition for any large bird. For Lucy, or any bird with the extent of injuries that Lucy exhibits, if she were to come into human care, the most likely outcome would almost certainly be euthanasia.
We have decided against this course for several reasons. First, we do not have reason to believe that Lucy is in pain. Dead tissue is not painful. The toes on her right foot are dead. We have also observed some swelling on her left foot, likely as result of her having to compensate, using the left foot to support most of her weight for many weeks. It is difficult to know whether this is painful for her, but based on her behavior, she is not in severe distress. Lucy continues to fly, eat, defecate and preen. These are all good signs of her overall well-being. Somehow, she is managing despite these serious impairments and adapting to her disability.
We will continue to monitor the situation closely. If Lucy’s condition deteriorates to the point that she is in severe distress, or is on the ground and cannot fly, we would move in to assist her. If Lucy were completely unable to manage, she could not have survived this long. Somehow she has adapted to her new abilities. It is at least possible that she could breed. A female eagle spends many months on the nest, without having to perch or hunt, as the male supplies most of the food for the family.
We have no desire to create a false hope. Lucy’s condition is dire. In all likelihood, the toes on her right foot will soon drop off. Again, they are dead tissue and have been dead for some time. There is no pain associated with dead tissue. Although she has managed for sometime following this injury, she may not be able to do so much longer. Winter is a difficult time even for healthy wildlife. Food is scarce and weather conditions test even a vigorous animal’s strength. Due to her limitations, Lucy will likely be eating more carrion, which will increase her risk of exposure to lead, a common cause of death in wild eagles. Lucy may not survive the winter.
Eagles4Kids will continue to stream video from the nest camera. Wildlife cams offer us an opportunity to view the life of eagles and other species as never before. As educators, we all believe that whatever the outcome for Lucy, ultimately, we will learn something. Life for eagles and all wild species is precarious. In the first season of Eagles4Kids, students and viewers learned a difficult lesson after the original female at the nest disappeared before laying eggs and no young were produced that year. However, we saw the perseverance of nature when Lucy and Larry successfully fledged two young last year. We are already learning that wild animals can adapt in ways that seem impossible to us. So, these eagles we have become so attached to may yet have something to teach us from this current situation.
We are grateful to everyone for their care and concern for Lucy and all wildlife. We, like all of you, care about Lucy as an individual bird. But we also recognize our limitations. Even though we may wish we could help her, we know that there’s nothing to be done right now.
We especially thank you for your patience. This process has been complex, time-consuming and at times heart wrenching. Each of the partners, all of whom have volunteered their time to this project, have needed to carefully evaluate the information, discuss and decide on next steps. We know that has meant that often the viewer, those of you so engaged with Lucy throughout these recent web cam seasons, have been left wondering what was happening. We have done our best to update everyone along the way. We are committed to communicating openly and honestly about this process, but at times kept the process private so that each of the partners could do their best work. We will do our best to share with you at this time the images and information we used to come to these conclusions. Thank you for your continued patience and care.
Eagles4Kids
National Eagle Center
Raptor Education Group, Inc (REGI)
Raptor Services, LLC
From fb
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: NoraH on 27-Jan-13, 11:38:57 AM
Lucy is making good landings on the nest now (1-24-2013).............
http://youtu.be/81_SDQVKzhM (http://youtu.be/81_SDQVKzhM)
A little hard to look at, but she's standing and eating good (1-25-2013)........
http://youtu.be/JySF5L30EvE (http://youtu.be/JySF5L30EvE)
http://youtu.be/81_SDQVKzhM (http://youtu.be/81_SDQVKzhM)
A little hard to look at, but she's standing and eating good (1-25-2013)........
http://youtu.be/JySF5L30EvE (http://youtu.be/JySF5L30EvE)
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 27-Jan-13, 05:57:46 PM
Lucy is one tough Eagle, learning to live with her disability-enjoying a little afternoon delight with Larry!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb2LES38dWk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb2LES38dWk#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb2LES38dWk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb2LES38dWk#)
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 27-Jan-13, 05:59:38 PM
She's amazing!! :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 28-Jan-13, 04:57:28 PM
http://youtu.be/Me515-CP_Sc (http://youtu.be/Me515-CP_Sc) Lucy & Larry
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 02-Feb-13, 07:48:06 AM
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/djweeds/Lucy_zps347480be.jpg) Lucy sleeping on the snow. She's doing pretty good for what she's been through but I still feel sad for her.
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 07-Feb-13, 09:19:56 AM
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/djweeds/LandL8_zpsd90df847.jpg) Larry & Lucy perching together. She's doing pretty good considering 2 bad feet.
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/djweeds/LandL7_zps960243fa.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/djweeds/LandL4_zps247edef1.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/djweeds/Lucyspellet_zps6fb365b3.jpg) Lucy's pellet
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/djweeds/LandL7_zps960243fa.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/djweeds/LandL4_zps247edef1.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/djweeds/Lucyspellet_zps6fb365b3.jpg) Lucy's pellet
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 07-Feb-13, 09:22:57 AM
:surprise: That's quite a pellet! :heart: Lucy!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 07-Feb-13, 09:26:38 AM
:surprise: That's quite a pellet! :heart: Lucy!
Guess people thought it was an egg!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 07-Feb-13, 12:15:41 PM
:surprise: That's quite a pellet! :heart: Lucy!
Guess people thought it was an egg!
:confused:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 09-Feb-13, 11:09:02 PM
Lucy landing, notice her foot! She's doing quite well considering!Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: MAK on 09-Feb-13, 11:11:35 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 18-Feb-13, 08:30:08 AM
http://youtu.be/mNXNNEdEDt4 (http://youtu.be/mNXNNEdEDt4) Larry's been busy
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: MAK on 20-Feb-13, 11:51:14 AM
:eagle2: Housekeeping eagle style! :eagle:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 20-Feb-13, 11:54:07 AM
These 2 are so cute together and Lucy has been helping a little with nest rearranging despite her handicap. Larry the builder is what they call him! :wub:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 25-Feb-13, 08:37:49 AM
http://youtu.be/lfa1kDI7d88 (http://youtu.be/lfa1kDI7d88)
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: MAK on 25-Feb-13, 09:54:45 PM
Amazing creatures for sure! :eagle2:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 08-Mar-13, 07:25:42 PM
http://youtu.be/cg646dZhu0Q (http://youtu.be/cg646dZhu0Q) Larry attempting to break branches for the nest! Never saw them do this before!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 09-Mar-13, 04:50:48 PM
OMG! Lucy laid an egg today at 2:24 PM! :clap:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 09-Mar-13, 06:14:41 PM
OMG! Lucy laid an egg today at 2:24 PM! :clap:
That's great! Go Lucy!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: MAK on 09-Mar-13, 08:17:30 PM
Woot for Lucy! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 11-Mar-13, 08:58:36 AM
http://youtu.be/7VDNh0Kk5aI (http://youtu.be/7VDNh0Kk5aI) Lucy brings her 1st bunch of grass to the nest! :heart: She's doing great for having one working foot.
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: MAK on 11-Mar-13, 12:35:15 PM
Lucy is amazing! :yes:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 20-Apr-13, 11:35:19 AM
Sad news for Lucy and Larry-their egg apparently wasn't viable and has disintegrated. :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PPsNwl5908#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PPsNwl5908#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PPsNwl5908#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PPsNwl5908#ws)
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: MAK on 20-Apr-13, 11:48:13 AM
:( That's a crying shame! :crying:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 20-Apr-13, 12:49:47 PM
Is their season over? Can they try again? Oh man, this is sad!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 06-Mar-14, 09:00:10 PM
Larry was attacked in the nest today...serious territorial fight going on the past couple days. Lucy isn't in the nest tonight, where she always sleeps, and someone said Larry had blood on him earlier. :(
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 06-Mar-14, 09:15:17 PM
While there is an eagle still hanging out at the nest, we cannot say which it is for sure. It is not Lucy. She was around 3:3o today and not other eagles were around. We will be going over all of crayj's video to sort this out. We still have more questions than answers. One thing we can tell you that we get often is, yes, eagles can fly at night. Tomorrow is another day, and the eagles will sort this all out and of course we hope that tomorrow Lucy and Larry fly into the nest like nothing happened. The eagle population is growing by about 10% each year. More and more of these events will happen as a result.
Hope they are both there tomorrow!!
Hope they are both there tomorrow!!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 06-Mar-14, 09:23:47 PM
While there is an eagle still hanging out at the nest, we cannot say which it is for sure. It is not Lucy. She was around 3:3o today and not other eagles were around. We will be going over all of crayj's video to sort this out. We still have more questions than answers. One thing we can tell you that we get often is, yes, eagles can fly at night. Tomorrow is another day, and the eagles will sort this all out and of course we hope that tomorrow Lucy and Larry fly into the nest like nothing happened. The eagle population is growing by about 10% each year. More and more of these events will happen as a result.
Hope they are both there tomorrow!!
Hope they are both there tomorrow!!
Me too!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: MAK on 07-Mar-14, 10:36:41 AM
:no: Say it ain't so! :pray:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 07-Mar-14, 10:47:11 AM
The intruder pair now have control of the nest. They're reporting that the male has blood on his neck so maybe Larry attacked him in the nest yesterday vs being attacked. Talon was going out this AM to try and locate Larry and Lucy. Here's some videos from the website:
http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/ (http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/)
http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/ (http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/)
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 07-Mar-14, 12:14:23 PM
Holding my ears, I don't want to hear this! So sad for both L & L. I hope they get the nest back! Very sad!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 09-Mar-14, 09:23:25 PM
A NEW DAY AND A NEW TWIST
I know many of you are asking for an update. Here is what I know today. I drove around for miles and miles this morning, looking for Lucy. No luck. It doesn't mean she isn't there, just not that I could see. I did not see much on camera before I left this morning. Then when I stopped and got online, I got a message from someone asking if it is possible that Larry is here. I have been doing some digging into the archives. It is my belief as it is many others that Larry indeed is here, and seemingly has accepted this other female. I would rather not go back to the events of the other night. That is over. I do not know about "the other male" nor do I really care. I did see another eagle perched not far from the nest in a clear cut this morning while one of the eagles was on the nest. I only know that because I made a call to verify if any eagle was there. I could not ID that eagle, and do not think it was Lucy. When my search was finished and about ready to leave the valley, two eagles came down from a sharp dive and into the nest around 10:30. Little did I know from a distance that Larry was there.
Many are going to ask why or how Larry could do this to Lucy. Eagles are driven to do one thing: reproduce. I do not have a solid answer that will make people happy. Maybe Larry sensed that Lucy was infertile and chose to go another direction. I cannot rule out a fight between females either. I cannot say she is alive, however that is what I believe. She is one smart eagle and more than likely she knew her place now, and could not fight to save her nest. As cam viewers we watch and become emotionally connected, especially in the events leading up to the other day. It is important to try and separate our emotions, if we can.
We will continue to observe, and learn. Two eagles were seen mating at the top of a pine tree yesterday. It could have been Larry at that time. I will not get into "naming" of the new eagle at this time. The students know this as well. Let's just see how things go. We all need time to let this all sink in. I hope people read all the updates and watch the videos. It is ok to have differing opinions but in light of the events it won't do any good to debate. Let's let nature take care of this and continue to observe, be amazed and know how lucky we are to have a window into a wild eagle nest.
Eagle on!
Darrin Briggs ~ E4K
I know many of you are asking for an update. Here is what I know today. I drove around for miles and miles this morning, looking for Lucy. No luck. It doesn't mean she isn't there, just not that I could see. I did not see much on camera before I left this morning. Then when I stopped and got online, I got a message from someone asking if it is possible that Larry is here. I have been doing some digging into the archives. It is my belief as it is many others that Larry indeed is here, and seemingly has accepted this other female. I would rather not go back to the events of the other night. That is over. I do not know about "the other male" nor do I really care. I did see another eagle perched not far from the nest in a clear cut this morning while one of the eagles was on the nest. I only know that because I made a call to verify if any eagle was there. I could not ID that eagle, and do not think it was Lucy. When my search was finished and about ready to leave the valley, two eagles came down from a sharp dive and into the nest around 10:30. Little did I know from a distance that Larry was there.
Many are going to ask why or how Larry could do this to Lucy. Eagles are driven to do one thing: reproduce. I do not have a solid answer that will make people happy. Maybe Larry sensed that Lucy was infertile and chose to go another direction. I cannot rule out a fight between females either. I cannot say she is alive, however that is what I believe. She is one smart eagle and more than likely she knew her place now, and could not fight to save her nest. As cam viewers we watch and become emotionally connected, especially in the events leading up to the other day. It is important to try and separate our emotions, if we can.
We will continue to observe, and learn. Two eagles were seen mating at the top of a pine tree yesterday. It could have been Larry at that time. I will not get into "naming" of the new eagle at this time. The students know this as well. Let's just see how things go. We all need time to let this all sink in. I hope people read all the updates and watch the videos. It is ok to have differing opinions but in light of the events it won't do any good to debate. Let's let nature take care of this and continue to observe, be amazed and know how lucky we are to have a window into a wild eagle nest.
Eagle on!
Darrin Briggs ~ E4K
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 23-Mar-14, 07:12:31 PM
Since the intruder female took over the nest and bonded with Larry, there had been no sign of Lucy, although many were looking for her almost on a daily basis. This was posted on the FB page, We Love Our Lucy, today with a pic:
Good news! Sue Schneider got this photo in Arcadia and Christine Stange blew it up....we think it most likely is Lucy! Thank you, Sue, for going out to look for her. And thank you, Chris, for helping us ID this wonderful eagle! It is such a relief to know she is ok!
:clap:
Good news! Sue Schneider got this photo in Arcadia and Christine Stange blew it up....we think it most likely is Lucy! Thank you, Sue, for going out to look for her. And thank you, Chris, for helping us ID this wonderful eagle! It is such a relief to know she is ok!
:clap:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 23-Mar-14, 07:17:54 PM
Glad she is OK....still feel bad for her. Those man Eagles!!!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 23-Mar-14, 07:50:48 PM
Glad she is OK....still feel bad for her. Those man Eagles!!!
Me too. I couldn't believe he abandoned her to take up with new female after everything they've both been through this past year.
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 23-Mar-14, 07:56:46 PM
Now I just read that people on Eagles4kids FB page think this Eagle has 2 feet and they can't say that this is Lucy. Bummer...I really had hoped this was her. :(
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: NoraH on 24-Mar-14, 12:31:05 AM
Glad she is OK....still feel bad for her. Those man Eagles!!!
Me too. I couldn't believe he abandoned her to take up with new female after everything they've both been through this past year.
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 24-Mar-14, 05:57:30 AM
Glad she is OK....still feel bad for her. Those man Eagles!!!
Me too. I couldn't believe he abandoned her to take up with new female after everything they've both been through this past year.
I understand exactly what you are saying Nora, it's just the way it is in the bird world. As humans, we may not like it and we have an over flow of emotions about it all. I'm sure Lucy understands more than us about all this and knows what she must do to protect herself! If she was well, she would have fought for that nest. I just feel kind of sad for her.
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 24-Mar-14, 07:37:35 AM
More drama: Intruder!
http://youtu.be/qIoI2lNkIDY (http://youtu.be/qIoI2lNkIDY) New Female went left & Larry went right
http://youtu.be/qIoI2lNkIDY (http://youtu.be/qIoI2lNkIDY) New Female went left & Larry went right
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 24-Mar-14, 09:14:59 AM
Glad she is OK....still feel bad for her. Those man Eagles!!!
Me too. I couldn't believe he abandoned her to take up with new female after everything they've both been through this past year.
I understand exactly what you are saying Nora, it's just the way it is in the bird world. As humans, we may not like it and we have an over flow of emotions about it all. I'm sure Lucy understands more than us about all this and knows what she must do to protect herself! If she was well, she would have fought for that nest. I just feel kind of sad for her.
I wasn't aware of this but chat people said that Lucy had started to defecate in the nest so there was speculation that she wasn't well. Larry could have sensed this and went for the stronger female, the one that had the highest chance of reproduction and Lucy probably knew she couldn't fight so she, hopefully, left on her own accord. I just felt, as many did, that he was so good to her during her severe foot injury, taking care of her and providing her with food, that he flipped mates so fast. Bonded pairs like Eagles usually do mate for life but, as we have discovered here, mating for life, which was thought to be the norm for Peregrines, just isn't so.
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 23-Feb-15, 05:10:43 PM
9:11 a.m. in Wisconsin and Blair is still incubating. She calls out for relief but nobody's coming. It's my assumption that "Mister" sent Taylor packing. frown emoticon Don't quote me; just my assumption.
Social Stream on the site is saying that this is nature: "Mister" knows the egg isn't his so he's having no part of incubating. Speculation is that if "Mister" and Blair mate, which there is time yet, maybe he'll "get" it; it's assumed he is a young male, probably a first try at mating.
All we can do is watch, wait and pray. I miss Lucy and Larry terribly but feel bad for the kids who are watching. They're missing the excitement of having viable eggs, chicks, etc. Let's keep them in our hearts. heart emoticon.
2-22-15
Blair needed to leave this morning. Eagles use a lot of energy in sub zero temperatures even when they do not do much moving around. They need to keep their body temperatures up and food equals energy. While this is not a good situation to be in, Blair needs to eat, and will see to her own survival first. This is nature and we realize it can be difficult to watch. We understand if you turn yourself off from watching.
This just in from E4K: Blair just laid a 2nd egg around 5 pm. "Mister is there. . . " Fingers crossed, everybody!
(apparently, Mister is not the dad) and he won't help incubate the eggs that are not his. May be a young male.
Today:2-20
DAY 2...ALMOST A WRAP.
It is snowing, and Blair was still incubating. Females tend to do the incubating in snowy/rainy weather. So, this is normal. She got up and left it and the male that many are calling "Mister" right now came in. We were hoping that he would take over but he seems to not make up his mind. This is normal.
If we are right, and the egg is Taylor's he would rather it be his genes in this clutch. He is not in daddy mode yet and may still be looking to bond. Blair is in mommy mode. For success, they need to get in synch. It may not happen. Blair will not starve. If she needs to eat to survive, she will, and she will leave the egg unattended. We have seen this happen at other nests. If "Mister" can somehow get in daddy mode, and adopt this egg, there is a chance for success. If not, it's simple. We will not have a hatch with this clutch. If it does fail there is still time for a 2nd clutch for Blair and "Mister."
Mister did bring in some food today. That is a positive sign. However, he has not joined in on incubating.
WLOL: Sounds like the "baby daddy" flew the coop and "Mister" is left to play dad. Hopefully he gets in the "dad mode" and he and Blair can have their own egg together. Hoping this couple will get at least one viable egg for these students.
Please go to the E4K FB page for videos.
Sounds like the "baby daddy" didn't stick around. D
More news....and sadly, drama: 2-19-15
NEST UPDATE
Last Thursday and Friday we know that Blair and Taylor mated. Saturday rolled around and Taylor was a no show and still is. Friday night we had the attack and some questions still surround that episode. Was it Taylor attacking or was it this male we are seeing that attacked the mature eagle on the nest? I think it was Taylor but am not certain. Next, if it was Taylor, was he injured in the attack as he hit hard and that is the reason we do not see him? Or, did the male that we see simply chase him off? Sorry, no answers. Still no sighting of Taylor since then.
Last night we were all elated at the sight of the first egg of 2015. This morning when there wasn't the traditional changing of the guard where the male takes over incubation, worry immediately set in. There was an attempt by the male to mate with Blair or it was a sign that he wanted to incubate, and she wasn't having any of it. So, it was more likely a sign that he wanted to mate knowing this was not his egg. He stayed for quite some time, and finally left. Later this afternoon, she called out and the male flew to the side branch and she left to the front perch. The male did not respond and come to incubate. By the way, I could hear everyone cheering him on, but he was not listening. This is not a good sign. Time will tell but she will have to eventually go and eat. It is still very cold. There continues to be more questions than answers. I do not have a crystal ball. At this time, just please know that I am praying for a Cinderella story as you all.
Very confusing and hope all works out but if she has to leave the eggs to hunt for herself, the eggs may not hatch with these cold temps!! Pray all works out with this nest!
Social Stream on the site is saying that this is nature: "Mister" knows the egg isn't his so he's having no part of incubating. Speculation is that if "Mister" and Blair mate, which there is time yet, maybe he'll "get" it; it's assumed he is a young male, probably a first try at mating.
All we can do is watch, wait and pray. I miss Lucy and Larry terribly but feel bad for the kids who are watching. They're missing the excitement of having viable eggs, chicks, etc. Let's keep them in our hearts. heart emoticon.
2-22-15
Blair needed to leave this morning. Eagles use a lot of energy in sub zero temperatures even when they do not do much moving around. They need to keep their body temperatures up and food equals energy. While this is not a good situation to be in, Blair needs to eat, and will see to her own survival first. This is nature and we realize it can be difficult to watch. We understand if you turn yourself off from watching.
This just in from E4K: Blair just laid a 2nd egg around 5 pm. "Mister is there. . . " Fingers crossed, everybody!
(apparently, Mister is not the dad) and he won't help incubate the eggs that are not his. May be a young male.
Today:2-20
DAY 2...ALMOST A WRAP.
It is snowing, and Blair was still incubating. Females tend to do the incubating in snowy/rainy weather. So, this is normal. She got up and left it and the male that many are calling "Mister" right now came in. We were hoping that he would take over but he seems to not make up his mind. This is normal.
If we are right, and the egg is Taylor's he would rather it be his genes in this clutch. He is not in daddy mode yet and may still be looking to bond. Blair is in mommy mode. For success, they need to get in synch. It may not happen. Blair will not starve. If she needs to eat to survive, she will, and she will leave the egg unattended. We have seen this happen at other nests. If "Mister" can somehow get in daddy mode, and adopt this egg, there is a chance for success. If not, it's simple. We will not have a hatch with this clutch. If it does fail there is still time for a 2nd clutch for Blair and "Mister."
Mister did bring in some food today. That is a positive sign. However, he has not joined in on incubating.
WLOL: Sounds like the "baby daddy" flew the coop and "Mister" is left to play dad. Hopefully he gets in the "dad mode" and he and Blair can have their own egg together. Hoping this couple will get at least one viable egg for these students.
Please go to the E4K FB page for videos.
Sounds like the "baby daddy" didn't stick around. D
More news....and sadly, drama: 2-19-15
NEST UPDATE
Last Thursday and Friday we know that Blair and Taylor mated. Saturday rolled around and Taylor was a no show and still is. Friday night we had the attack and some questions still surround that episode. Was it Taylor attacking or was it this male we are seeing that attacked the mature eagle on the nest? I think it was Taylor but am not certain. Next, if it was Taylor, was he injured in the attack as he hit hard and that is the reason we do not see him? Or, did the male that we see simply chase him off? Sorry, no answers. Still no sighting of Taylor since then.
Last night we were all elated at the sight of the first egg of 2015. This morning when there wasn't the traditional changing of the guard where the male takes over incubation, worry immediately set in. There was an attempt by the male to mate with Blair or it was a sign that he wanted to incubate, and she wasn't having any of it. So, it was more likely a sign that he wanted to mate knowing this was not his egg. He stayed for quite some time, and finally left. Later this afternoon, she called out and the male flew to the side branch and she left to the front perch. The male did not respond and come to incubate. By the way, I could hear everyone cheering him on, but he was not listening. This is not a good sign. Time will tell but she will have to eventually go and eat. It is still very cold. There continues to be more questions than answers. I do not have a crystal ball. At this time, just please know that I am praying for a Cinderella story as you all.
Very confusing and hope all works out but if she has to leave the eggs to hunt for herself, the eggs may not hatch with these cold temps!! Pray all works out with this nest!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 23-Feb-15, 06:22:43 PM
9:11 a.m. in Wisconsin and Blair is still incubating. She calls out for relief but nobody's coming. It's my assumption that "Mister" sent Taylor packing. frown emoticon Don't quote me; just my assumption.
Social Stream on the site is saying that this is nature: "Mister" knows the egg isn't his so he's having no part of incubating. Speculation is that if "Mister" and Blair mate, which there is time yet, maybe he'll "get" it; it's assumed he is a young male, probably a first try at mating.
All we can do is watch, wait and pray. I miss Lucy and Larry terribly but feel bad for the kids who are watching. They're missing the excitement of having viable eggs, chicks, etc. Let's keep them in our hearts. heart emoticon.
2-22-15
Blair needed to leave this morning. Eagles use a lot of energy in sub zero temperatures even when they do not do much moving around. They need to keep their body temperatures up and food equals energy. While this is not a good situation to be in, Blair needs to eat, and will see to her own survival first. This is nature and we realize it can be difficult to watch. We understand if you turn yourself off from watching.
This just in from E4K: Blair just laid a 2nd egg around 5 pm. "Mister is there. . . " Fingers crossed, everybody!
(apparently, Mister is not the dad) and he won't help incubate the eggs that are not his. May be a young male.
Today:2-20
DAY 2...ALMOST A WRAP.
It is snowing, and Blair was still incubating. Females tend to do the incubating in snowy/rainy weather. So, this is normal. She got up and left it and the male that many are calling "Mister" right now came in. We were hoping that he would take over but he seems to not make up his mind. This is normal.
If we are right, and the egg is Taylor's he would rather it be his genes in this clutch. He is not in daddy mode yet and may still be looking to bond. Blair is in mommy mode. For success, they need to get in synch. It may not happen. Blair will not starve. If she needs to eat to survive, she will, and she will leave the egg unattended. We have seen this happen at other nests. If "Mister" can somehow get in daddy mode, and adopt this egg, there is a chance for success. If not, it's simple. We will not have a hatch with this clutch. If it does fail there is still time for a 2nd clutch for Blair and "Mister."
Mister did bring in some food today. That is a positive sign. However, he has not joined in on incubating.
WLOL: Sounds like the "baby daddy" flew the coop and "Mister" is left to play dad. Hopefully he gets in the "dad mode" and he and Blair can have their own egg together. Hoping this couple will get at least one viable egg for these students.
Please go to the E4K FB page for videos.
Sounds like the "baby daddy" didn't stick around. D
More news....and sadly, drama: 2-19-15
NEST UPDATE
Last Thursday and Friday we know that Blair and Taylor mated. Saturday rolled around and Taylor was a no show and still is. Friday night we had the attack and some questions still surround that episode. Was it Taylor attacking or was it this male we are seeing that attacked the mature eagle on the nest? I think it was Taylor but am not certain. Next, if it was Taylor, was he injured in the attack as he hit hard and that is the reason we do not see him? Or, did the male that we see simply chase him off? Sorry, no answers. Still no sighting of Taylor since then.
Last night we were all elated at the sight of the first egg of 2015. This morning when there wasn't the traditional changing of the guard where the male takes over incubation, worry immediately set in. There was an attempt by the male to mate with Blair or it was a sign that he wanted to incubate, and she wasn't having any of it. So, it was more likely a sign that he wanted to mate knowing this was not his egg. He stayed for quite some time, and finally left. Later this afternoon, she called out and the male flew to the side branch and she left to the front perch. The male did not respond and come to incubate. By the way, I could hear everyone cheering him on, but he was not listening. This is not a good sign. Time will tell but she will have to eventually go and eat. It is still very cold. There continues to be more questions than answers. I do not have a crystal ball. At this time, just please know that I am praying for a Cinderella story as you all.
Very confusing and hope all works out but if she has to leave the eggs to hunt for herself, the eggs may not hatch with these cold temps!! Pray all works out with this nest!
Social Stream on the site is saying that this is nature: "Mister" knows the egg isn't his so he's having no part of incubating. Speculation is that if "Mister" and Blair mate, which there is time yet, maybe he'll "get" it; it's assumed he is a young male, probably a first try at mating.
All we can do is watch, wait and pray. I miss Lucy and Larry terribly but feel bad for the kids who are watching. They're missing the excitement of having viable eggs, chicks, etc. Let's keep them in our hearts. heart emoticon.
2-22-15
Blair needed to leave this morning. Eagles use a lot of energy in sub zero temperatures even when they do not do much moving around. They need to keep their body temperatures up and food equals energy. While this is not a good situation to be in, Blair needs to eat, and will see to her own survival first. This is nature and we realize it can be difficult to watch. We understand if you turn yourself off from watching.
This just in from E4K: Blair just laid a 2nd egg around 5 pm. "Mister is there. . . " Fingers crossed, everybody!
(apparently, Mister is not the dad) and he won't help incubate the eggs that are not his. May be a young male.
Today:2-20
DAY 2...ALMOST A WRAP.
It is snowing, and Blair was still incubating. Females tend to do the incubating in snowy/rainy weather. So, this is normal. She got up and left it and the male that many are calling "Mister" right now came in. We were hoping that he would take over but he seems to not make up his mind. This is normal.
If we are right, and the egg is Taylor's he would rather it be his genes in this clutch. He is not in daddy mode yet and may still be looking to bond. Blair is in mommy mode. For success, they need to get in synch. It may not happen. Blair will not starve. If she needs to eat to survive, she will, and she will leave the egg unattended. We have seen this happen at other nests. If "Mister" can somehow get in daddy mode, and adopt this egg, there is a chance for success. If not, it's simple. We will not have a hatch with this clutch. If it does fail there is still time for a 2nd clutch for Blair and "Mister."
Mister did bring in some food today. That is a positive sign. However, he has not joined in on incubating.
WLOL: Sounds like the "baby daddy" flew the coop and "Mister" is left to play dad. Hopefully he gets in the "dad mode" and he and Blair can have their own egg together. Hoping this couple will get at least one viable egg for these students.
Please go to the E4K FB page for videos.
Sounds like the "baby daddy" didn't stick around. D
More news....and sadly, drama: 2-19-15
NEST UPDATE
Last Thursday and Friday we know that Blair and Taylor mated. Saturday rolled around and Taylor was a no show and still is. Friday night we had the attack and some questions still surround that episode. Was it Taylor attacking or was it this male we are seeing that attacked the mature eagle on the nest? I think it was Taylor but am not certain. Next, if it was Taylor, was he injured in the attack as he hit hard and that is the reason we do not see him? Or, did the male that we see simply chase him off? Sorry, no answers. Still no sighting of Taylor since then.
Last night we were all elated at the sight of the first egg of 2015. This morning when there wasn't the traditional changing of the guard where the male takes over incubation, worry immediately set in. There was an attempt by the male to mate with Blair or it was a sign that he wanted to incubate, and she wasn't having any of it. So, it was more likely a sign that he wanted to mate knowing this was not his egg. He stayed for quite some time, and finally left. Later this afternoon, she called out and the male flew to the side branch and she left to the front perch. The male did not respond and come to incubate. By the way, I could hear everyone cheering him on, but he was not listening. This is not a good sign. Time will tell but she will have to eventually go and eat. It is still very cold. There continues to be more questions than answers. I do not have a crystal ball. At this time, just please know that I am praying for a Cinderella story as you all.
Very confusing and hope all works out but if she has to leave the eggs to hunt for herself, the eggs may not hatch with these cold temps!! Pray all works out with this nest!
It's sad to watch..she has no support from this male.
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 24-Feb-15, 09:59:37 AM
8:23 am and Blair is on the nest. Light snow and 23 degrees. Softly calling for Mister....or Taylor? Social Stream says he was there earlier, but no mention of food. Loren Allen, thank you for reporting that you had watched all day and it was not Mister that brought the food; she got it herself. But I've been told they mated, so maybe in a few days we'll have an egg that Mister will help with.
I agree with all of you: it is so sad to see/hear her on the nest trying to incubate by herself.
I'm no eagle expert, but from what I've read, Mister will not accept another male's egg as his own. That said, if she lays another egg, now from him, his parenting skills may kick in. We can only hope. Blair :heart:
I agree with all of you: it is so sad to see/hear her on the nest trying to incubate by herself.
I'm no eagle expert, but from what I've read, Mister will not accept another male's egg as his own. That said, if she lays another egg, now from him, his parenting skills may kick in. We can only hope. Blair :heart:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Carol P. on 24-Feb-15, 11:01:14 AM
Good news that they mated. Hoping for the best. Thanks for posting the update Donna. :wave:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 21-Feb-16, 07:09:44 AM
http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/2016/2/19/day-after-the-attack.html (http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/2016/2/19/day-after-the-attack.html)
Attack on male at nest, he's gone, new dude there with Blair. :(
(Warning slow motion of the attack)
I didn't watch it but if someone wants to!!
Attack on male at nest, he's gone, new dude there with Blair. :(
(Warning slow motion of the attack)
I didn't watch it but if someone wants to!!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Donna on 05-Mar-16, 08:43:02 AM
http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/2016/3/5/mr-t-is-one-tough-bird.html (http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/2016/3/5/mr-t-is-one-tough-bird.html) Taylor is still the male at the nest. He was gone after altercation but came back. He has an injured toe!!
Mating!
Mating!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 03-Apr-16, 09:37:33 AM
Just posted on FB:
Sadly, the intruder is in the nest now after Blair had to fly off for a bit. He is moving the eggs and trying to destroy the eggs. One egg is now destroyed.
Posted under comments that both eggs have been destroyed..so sad for Blair and Taylor. This site has had so much tragedy..feel sorry for the kids. :sorrow:
Sadly, the intruder is in the nest now after Blair had to fly off for a bit. He is moving the eggs and trying to destroy the eggs. One egg is now destroyed.
Posted under comments that both eggs have been destroyed..so sad for Blair and Taylor. This site has had so much tragedy..feel sorry for the kids. :sorrow:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 03-Apr-16, 12:26:41 PM
Saw on BCAW..MOD response on chat
very sad situation happen on the nest this morning... We have an intruder, he is on the front branch.. Blair is on the nest... and our eggs have been destroyed by the intruder.. We have not seen Taylor since last night... we don't know if he is ok... please bear with us.. we are all a little upset right now
photofun_WEmod 8:35 AMChat will be paused for a little bit till we can regroup ((((Chatters))))) hope you understand
Patti-E4KIDS_WEmod 8:38 AMWe do believe that the eggs were viable due to the blood we saw once the eggs were broken , thank you all for being here & understanding our pain & grief
:crying:
very sad situation happen on the nest this morning... We have an intruder, he is on the front branch.. Blair is on the nest... and our eggs have been destroyed by the intruder.. We have not seen Taylor since last night... we don't know if he is ok... please bear with us.. we are all a little upset right now
photofun_WEmod 8:35 AMChat will be paused for a little bit till we can regroup ((((Chatters))))) hope you understand
Patti-E4KIDS_WEmod 8:38 AMWe do believe that the eggs were viable due to the blood we saw once the eggs were broken , thank you all for being here & understanding our pain & grief
:crying:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Penelope99 on 03-Apr-16, 03:48:20 PM
So sorry for this team!!
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Tapper Gal on 04-Apr-16, 03:03:38 PM
This is very sad indeed.My thoughts are with this couple. :crying:
Title: Re: Eagles 4 kids webcam
Post by: Kris G. on 04-Apr-16, 04:03:20 PM
Update:
http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/ (http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/)
http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/ (http://www.eagles4kids.com/daily-updates/)