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Author Topic: Sabrina/Valiant (2006) Found injured in East Aurora, NY - 1/23/12  (Read 41458 times)
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« Reply #30 on: 25-Jan-12, 08:54:05 PM »

I hope it's not your Sabrina.  I found this tidbit when trying to search on banding protocols as I know they do reuse letter/numbers.  From the Ohio Pefa site:  http://ohiodnr.com/wildlife/dow/falcons/faq.aspx

"When a symbol appears sideways on a band, it is represented in writing by an asterisk (*). Therefore, on the band in the photo the Y is sideways and so is written as *Y/5.

This is done to increase the number of possible combinations of letters and numbers on these special color bands.

Thus, more falcons can be banded with a particular combination of color fields (like "black over green") before new colored bands are needed."
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« Reply #31 on: 25-Jan-12, 09:20:18 PM »

The 2005 banding in Rochester was on June 2.  Sabrina's banding was on June 1, 2006.  I don't know whether Rochester has ever had a June 6 banding. It's sad when any of these guys meets an untimely end, but there just seem to be too many differences in  band code and banding day for it to have been Sabrina.

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« Reply #32 on: 25-Jan-12, 11:33:45 PM »

I've emailed Sage to please check with Connie from the DEC to verify how the M/T Red/Black is placed on the "color" band.

If it's M/T straight up, it is not Sabrina.  If it's M/T (T tipped to the left), it probably is Sabrina.

As someone stated below, there are all different variations in how the letters/#'s are placed on a band.

Sabrina/Valiant was banded on June 1, 2006, along with Rhea Mae and Aura.  Rhea Mae and Sabrina received the last of the red/black bands that Mike Allen, DEC had.  Aura was banded with a green/black band.

Hopefully we'll hear back soon from Sage.
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« Reply #33 on: 26-Jan-12, 11:44:51 AM »

crying I am sorry to say I have confirmed that the T is left sideways, but we will need to wait for official confirmation from the DEC.

Fly free Sabrina/Valiant.

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« Reply #34 on: 26-Jan-12, 12:06:00 PM »

This is another sad day. Fly free, Sabrina/Valiant.  Sad
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« Reply #35 on: 26-Jan-12, 12:21:09 PM »

This is so sad.  Cry First Callidora now Sabrina/Valiant  crying  crying
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« Reply #36 on: 26-Jan-12, 12:32:13 PM »

So it is him, I'm so sorry, was hoping it wasn't. No more please! Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: 26-Jan-12, 01:06:04 PM »

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« Reply #38 on: 26-Jan-12, 01:12:43 PM »

Sweet, precious Valiant crying
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« Reply #39 on: 26-Jan-12, 01:15:35 PM »

I got to see Sabrina/Valiant, RM and Aura when I was there in 2006. I'll cherish that memory! Sad Sad  heart

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« Reply #40 on: 26-Jan-12, 02:06:34 PM »

Oh, this is so sad that it was a Rochester pefa.  I was hoping not.  Fly free Valiant!
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« Reply #41 on: 26-Jan-12, 03:42:12 PM »

Also might want to check with Mike Allen.  June 6, 2005 was the banding in Syracuse of Hazel, Sojourner, Juliet and Thunder. 
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« Reply #42 on: 26-Jan-12, 04:43:04 PM »

From Christiane on Kfalconcam:

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So sorry to hear about Valiant--does anyone know if he had fathered any young at
the Ogdensburg site; didn't know if anyone was following that location. What a
loss this week. Sad Fly high Valiant and Callidora. Christiane
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« Reply #43 on: 26-Jan-12, 04:54:11 PM »

Red, aka Sabrina was my first.  Sucko week!  My egg, aka Helga Jean and now my first, Sabrina (who will always be Red).
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« Reply #44 on: 26-Jan-12, 05:17:30 PM »

From Christiane on Kfalconcam:

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So sorry to hear about Valiant--does anyone know if he had fathered any young at
the Ogdensburg site; didn't know if anyone was following that location. What a
loss this week. Sad Fly high Valiant and Callidora. Christiane
My records show he nested twice in Ogdensburg with Zanar (69/K B/B 2004 Crowne Plaza Ottawa) 2009 & 2010.  I'm not sure how many hatches there were in 2009, but I have them marked as not surviving to fledge.  There were 4 hatches in 2010 and no reports of fatalities. There were no reports that anyone was able to find for 2011.

So there were 3 potential additional nesting years somewhere unobserved.  That is my one comfort with this news...he left offspring behind. 

Still terribly sad...
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