De Mortel - Netherlands

[Donna]

One of the 2 new females!

[Annette]

One of the 2 new females!

TWO new females? 

[carly]

One of the 2 new females!

Somewhere in Toronto, Jack the Tiercel is smiling 

[Shaky]

On Kfalconcam:

I saw Pa in the box by his lonesome for awhile this morning. He sure has his
talons full! Christiane

[MAK]

One of the 2 new females!

Somewhere in Toronto, Jack the Tiercel is smiling 

Yeah Carly so is Archer from Rochester! 

[Lizz]

I repeat - TWO females??

[jeanne]

Too bad they can't send her here or to CPF.  Course if she were here, Archer would visit

[Donna]

Too bad they can't send her here or to CPF.  Course if she were here, Archer would visit

They were saying that on BCAW, they will take up a collection and fly her to the states or Canada if she can't fly again!! Lots of unhappy people over there.

[chlosmom]

i'll contribute--just tell me how

[Donna]

i'll contribute--just tell me how

They have a while before they get the final word on S2. I hope that if she can fly and heal well enough, they just let her go, far far from DeMortel. She wouldn't stand a chance with the new BIG female, if that's who Pa has chosen. Scary to think what may happen. I believe they already collected donations for her care. That was nice chlosmom! 

[carly]

I repeat - TWO females??

From what DEF has said over on BCAW, two females have been witnessed there with Pa.  A local resident also spotted them fighting twice so far, talons locked in the air.  Hopefully no one dies over the nest.  It's quite a popular site, I know S2 has had to fend off quite a few females there during her reign.

[carly]

OMG, couldn't they keep her as an educational bird? Give her to CPF!! Put her down for what? Don't let Mark Nash hear about this! I'm shocked!  

Actually I think Mark and Marion might agree with them, depending on the bird in question.  I used to feel the same way until they explained to me how once wild birds do in captivity.  Marion told me that you can see in their eyes that somehow the life has gone out of them.  That's why they prefer to use imprinted birds for the education program, they raise them from babies and the birds don't know anything else so they thrive.   A biologist out west that I correspond with also said the same thing, she's been working with wild birds for over 20 years and said most of them don't make good educational birds because they miss being free.    

If they didn't care about S2, they wouldn't be doing all they could to save her but quality of life is just as important for a falcon as it is for a human in my humble opinion.

[Donna]

OMG, couldn't they keep her as an educational bird? Give her to CPF!! Put her down for what? Don't let Mark Nash hear about this! I'm shocked!  

Actually I think Mark and Marion might agree with them, depending on the bird in question.  I used to feel the same way until they explained to me how once wild birds do in captivity.  Marion told me that you can see in their eyes that somehow the life has gone out of them.  That's why they prefer to use imprinted birds for the education program, they raise them from babies and the birds don't know anything else so they thrive.   A biologist out west that I correspond with also said the same thing, she's been working with wild birds for over 20 years and said most of them don't make good educational birds because they miss being free.    

If they didn't care about S2, they wouldn't be doing all they could to save her but quality of life is just as important for a falcon as it is for a human in my humble opinion.

Wow, that so makes sense Carly. Funny, we don't really see a birds point of view here, just our own. Unfortunately, a lunatic human did this to her. I feel so bad for her after all she's been through. She came a long way since first spotted in DeMortel. 

[Bobbie Ireland]

...you can see in their eyes that somehow the life has gone out of them...

What a sad, sad thing to think about, Carly. But I understand completely.

[MAK]

   It's a hard pill to swallow but I understand now why they will euthanize S2 if she can't fly free again. But I'm gonna pray like hell that she recovers well enough to return to the wild where she belongs