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Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands
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24-May-12, 02:22:34 PM »
Quote from: Kris G. on 24-May-12, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: Donna on 24-May-12, 01:50:56 PM
Any news on S2? Can't even find info on BCAW!!
I look from time to time but I don't think there has been any sightings since the video showing her looking at the eggs when New Girl came into the box and S2 flew off. Pa still seems attached to the eggs and does incubate them at times so that's why people there haven't removed them. Sad.
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S2
not OR2. S2 is still in rehab right?
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Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands
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Reply #211 on:
24-May-12, 02:47:09 PM »
Quote from: Donna on 24-May-12, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: Kris G. on 24-May-12, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: Donna on 24-May-12, 01:50:56 PM
Any news on S2? Can't even find info on BCAW!!
I look from time to time but I don't think there has been any sightings since the video showing her looking at the eggs when New Girl came into the box and S2 flew off. Pa still seems attached to the eggs and does incubate them at times so that's why people there haven't removed them. Sad.
NO, I mean
S2
not OR2. S2 is still in rehab right?
Whoops, too many 2 's-these birds need names! Lol. I think I read she's with a Falconer and will be released in the fall.
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Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands
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Reply #212 on:
24-May-12, 04:32:13 PM »
Quote from: Kris G. on 24-May-12, 02:47:09 PM
Quote from: Donna on 24-May-12, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: Kris G. on 24-May-12, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: Donna on 24-May-12, 01:50:56 PM
Any news on S2? Can't even find info on BCAW!!
I look from time to time but I don't think there has been any sightings since the video showing her looking at the eggs when New Girl came into the box and S2 flew off. Pa still seems attached to the eggs and does incubate them at times so that's why people there haven't removed them. Sad.
NO, I mean
S2
not OR2. S2 is still in rehab right?
Whoops, too many 2 's-these birds need names! Lol. I think I read she's with a Falconer and will be released in the fall.
Thanks kris, can't find her thread on BCAW!
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Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands
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Reply #213 on:
24-May-12, 04:34:50 PM »
Quote from: Donna on 24-May-12, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: Kris G. on 24-May-12, 02:47:09 PM
Quote from: Donna on 24-May-12, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: Kris G. on 24-May-12, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: Donna on 24-May-12, 01:50:56 PM
Any news on S2? Can't even find info on BCAW!!
I look from time to time but I don't think there has been any sightings since the video showing her looking at the eggs when New Girl came into the box and S2 flew off. Pa still seems attached to the eggs and does incubate them at times so that's why people there haven't removed them. Sad.
NO, I mean
S2
not OR2. S2 is still in rehab right?
Whoops, too many 2 's-these birds need names! Lol. I think I read she's with a Falconer and will be released in the fall.
Thanks kris, can't find her thread on BCAW!
You have to go to Board Index and look for DeMortel:Pa and OR2-info about S2 should be there.
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Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands
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Reply #214 on:
24-May-12, 04:38:18 PM »
Quote from: Kris G. on 24-May-12, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: Donna on 24-May-12, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: Kris G. on 24-May-12, 02:47:09 PM
Quote from: Donna on 24-May-12, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: Kris G. on 24-May-12, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: Donna on 24-May-12, 01:50:56 PM
Any news on S2? Can't even find info on BCAW!!
I look from time to time but I don't think there has been any sightings since the video showing her looking at the eggs when New Girl came into the box and S2 flew off. Pa still seems attached to the eggs and does incubate them at times so that's why people there haven't removed them. Sad.
NO, I mean
S2
not OR2. S2 is still in rehab right?
Whoops, too many 2 's-these birds need names! Lol. I think I read she's with a Falconer and will be released in the fall.
Thanks kris, can't find her thread on BCAW!
You have to go to Board Index and look for DeMortel:Pa and OR2-info about S2 should be there.
OH saw that but thought S2 had her own thread. No news in a while then. THX!!
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Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands
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Update on S2(Google translation): Found on BCAW
S2 is doing well, she is molting and several hand- wing- and tail feathers have already been replaced.
This month (June) she will be trained to be around and trust people. In July she will be transferred to a certified falconer who will train her so she can catch her own prey again and her flying abilities are optimized.
After that, she will be put in isolation again for a short while to undo her tolerance to people. Late August, early September she will be released at or near the spot where she was found. (It's very close to the tower)
She is expected to fly straight back to the tower. In this period of the year the territorial falcons (now Pa and the new female) are not as aggressive as in spring and fights probably won't be potential deadly.
(That is the reason she wasn't released back in February, to prevent just such a battle. As we know 2OR still had to fight a lot to keep her nest and ultimately lost it to this new, unbanded female unfortunately.)
In the next few days a new video will be posted on the website of VWG
http://www.vwggemertslechtvalk.nl/nieuws.html
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Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands
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03-Jun-12, 09:22:48 AM »
Thanks so much for this news Kris, I was hoping for an update on her. Bless her and hope she finds her way to Pa again to regain her nest. (Stay away from bad people with guns)!
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Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands
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Quote from: Donna on 03-Jun-12, 09:22:48 AM
Thanks so much for this news Kris, I was hoping for an update on her. Bless her and hope she finds her way to Pa again to regain her nest. (Stay away from bad people with guns)!
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Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands
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Update on S2 (Google translation)
S2 in the final phase of its rehabilitation process
Gemert, Sunday, July 8, 2012
In recent months, S2 in peace can still recover and moult her feathers which in part is again renewed. We are still waiting to moult all over and then she goes to the falconer for the last phase of her rehabilitation process. This will back the falcon 'in condition' be charged. For birds of prey to catch their prey is essential. For seed eaters or scavengers such as a hawk is in rehabilitation in this final stage usually suffice greater uitwenvolière which they called for their kind sufficient condition can build up again independent of food to arrive. But species such as goshawk, sparrowhawk and peregrine for their rehabilitation forced longer time spent in captivity is an aviary, how large, therefore, insufficient to be able to come back condition. They must be in top condition for their prey to get. It just releasing these birds almost certainly lead to starvation and is therefore irresponsible.
The only method to such birds are in condition to bring falconry method is called. Falconers hunt because such birds in top condition for this to be a prey to arrive. The techniques they use for that are centuries old.
The first step is to tame a bird or 'sea' it. The falconer must gain the confidence of the falcon. Although today their falconers birds they were breeding earlier by falconers from the wild-caught seafood and had therefore to be made. In a period of several weeks 'carries' the bird or the falconer very intensive which the bird is fed by the falconer. After some time, overcomes the bird's natural aversion, and then realizes that for which the food is dependent on the falconer. That is the moment to the falcon acquainted with the lure, an artificial prey to a line can be rotated and a piece of bait that can be confirmed. Every time the hawk lurking these 'stores' is rewarded with bait. Initially done inside and the falcon itself still leashed, but once there is sufficient confidence with the falconer and getting used to wait outside the falcon is built may be left loose. From that moment the falcon daily lurking fly. And since then they end up getting rewarded they will be more motivated to that address. From that moment the condition of the bird leaps forward. Then comes the skill of the falconer in handy. That must wait a falcon ever faster growing faster. The trick is to wait for the falcon as flat as possible by turning it up so motivated to maximize effort. A peregrine once on condition that goes with enormous speed and requires very good timing of the falconer.
As soon as the falcon in this way is placed on the condition, it will again be able to independently to capture prey, and the falcon can be released. Once the hawk has caught its first prey and devours it will no longer have the incentive to the falconer to come or wait to save her because she has food inside. That was the great fear of the former falconers with wild-caught falcons hunted. Once beyond their sight a prey would hit and went to eat is indeed no longer dependent on the falconer and will not be to him or to wait. The falconer must then hope that the next day there was again that stimulus and then try to get the bird back. Saves the falcon but for a second time out of his sight a prey very quickly, the likelihood is smaller that the falconer's bird ever again can capture. The bird quickly realizes that he can catch prey on her own and no longer dependent on the falconer. The bird is then in a few days time completely bewildered.
S2 will undergo training in the coming time above. An additional exciting moment for me is when they first go outside will be flown to the lure. At that time we will really know if her wing has been restored so that they can fly again good or unexpected that those irreparably damaged.
We will keep you informed.
VWG Gemert
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Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands
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Well this is all good news! I hope she mends, hunts and can be released and goes back to her Pa with no incidents. I wish her the best. Poor S2, she's been through the mill and back. Thanks Kris, was hoping to hear something soon on her.
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New update on S2 (translated by Alison-posted on BCAW)-
The peregrine S2
Gemert, Friday, August 3, 2012
It is getting close, in the coming weeks we will be preparing S2 for her return to the wild!
She has not yet completely finished her molt, but she is ready. Soon she will have her "anklets" fitted, leather straps around her legs.
Jesses will be passed through the anklets so that the falconer can tame the falcon. He will do this by teaching her to take prey while on the glove. If she does reasonably well, she will go to another falconer who will continue her training in order to bring her into good condition so that she can capture prey on her own. She is expected to be ready for release at the end of September or early in October. We will contact you over the next while through this website to keep you informed of her progress.
VWG Gemert
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Re: Pa & S2 - Netherlands
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Update on S2 (translated by Dutch Eagle Fan on BCAW):
A few weeks later than planned, due to the extremely hot weather and the fact that S2 still was moulting, she was taken to the falconer yesterday.
Her colour and tracking station bands were removed but will be placed back when she is released. She seemed quite calm during the whole procedure.
Her moult is almost complete, just two hand- and two tail-feathers are not yet fully grown in, which is quite remarkable for a bird in captivity. She looks very healthy and strong.
Now she has to get used to the falconer, accept him as her source of food. Then the training can begin to build up her strength and make sure that she can use her injured wing without any problems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLm3WlPDlBg#
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Quote from: Kris G. on 25-Aug-12, 01:07:50 PM
Update on S2 (translated by Dutch Eagle Fan on BCAW):
A few weeks later than planned, due to the extremely hot weather and the fact that S2 still was moulting, she was taken to the falconer yesterday.
Her colour and tracking station bands were removed but will be placed back when she is released. She seemed quite calm during the whole procedure.
Her moult is almost complete, just two hand- and two tail-feathers are not yet fully grown in, which is quite remarkable for a bird in captivity. She looks very healthy and strong.
Now she has to get used to the falconer, accept him as her source of food. Then the training can begin to build up her strength and make sure that she can use her injured wing without any problems.
Great,thanks Kris!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLm3WlPDlBg#
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She looks great, thanks Kris. I wish her luck with the falconer.
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