Kakking

[MAK]

 Yesterday CarolP said she never heard a juvie kak before when commenting about my morning report. Can someone explain to me what juvie talk is called if not kakking? ???

[jeanne]

Whining and crying?

As opposed to when we said Beauty was a screamer:)

[Dumpsterkitty]

It's funny how we can read things differently-I took her comment to mean the at people part, not the kakking part. 

[Carol P.]

We talked about this tonite.  I consider kakking, an alarm call by the adults.  KAK!KAK!KAK!KAK! Very loud.  Ee-chupping, more a conversational vocalization.  We decided (Jeanne, Brian, MAK and I) that a longer drawn out, whiny, higher pitched, aaaacccckkkk, aaaacccckkkk, aaaacccckkkk is the juvie cry.  

[MAK]

Ack ack I'm still a juvie!   

[Carol P.]

Ack ack I'm still a juvie!   

It's a MAK ACK ATTACK!   

[jeanne]

and speaking of which-- we heard that ack ack tonight!!!!  Music to our ears!   

[Donna]

You guys are CR "ACK"  N me up!   OK so a Juvie alarm is Ack and an adult is Kak! Very interesting.

[Carol P.]

and speaking of which-- we heard that ack ack tonight!!!!  Music to our ears!   

Sorry I missed it!

[Carol P.]

You guys are CR "ACK"  N me up!   OK so a Juvie alarm is Ack and an adult is Kak! Very interesting.

B"ack" to the "ack"tion.  I think it's a multi-used verbalization.  Fright or maybe surprise (by the man on the tower). Hungry (as in feed me now mom and dad!).  Attention (here I am!).  I'm not sure a juvie has more than one sound.  I'll have to pay more attention.  

I do know that not all juvies sound the same.  A few years ago, one of M&K's young had a very, very whinny/tinny sound to their cry.  You always knew when this little one was coming.

[Bird Crazy]

I do know that not all juvies sound the same.  A few years ago, one of M&K's young had a very, very whinny/tinny sound to their cry.  You always knew when this little one was coming.

which one was it?

[Lord G]

The available literature on the subject (at least that which is easily accessible via a web search) indicates that both the adult and juvenile vocalization is referred to as a "kak".  I don't think there's any problem with referring to the alarm call of either a juvenile or an adult by the same term, though there are certainly differences in timbre, depth and volume.  See the "Voice" section on this page from the Canadian Peregrine Foundation for an example.

The Communication and Perception section of the Peregrine page on the University of Michigan's Museum of Zoology site also has some useful information that points toward both perceptions of a "kak" and an "ack" being basically the same vocalization since there is a great deal of individuality in these calls.  It makes for interesting reading.

[Joyce]

The available literature on the subject (at least that which is easily accessible via a web search) indicates that both the adult and juvenile vocalization is referred to as a "kak".  I don't think there's any problem with referring to the alarm call of either a juvenile or an adult by the same term, though there are certainly differences in timbre, depth and volume.  See the "Voice" section on this page from the Canadian Peregrine Foundation for an example.

The Communication and Perception section of the Peregrine page on the University of Michigan's Museum of Zoology site also has some useful information that points toward both perceptions of a "kak" and an "ack" being basically the same vocalization since there is a great deal of individuality in these calls.  It makes for interesting reading.

Thanks Jim for posting these links.  I've never seen the one from MI.  Good resource!