2012 Pictures from the Rfalconcam Cameras

[Dumpsterkitty]

OK...last post on the topic...I made a collage with yesterday on the left & June 30 on the right.



I think you can see where there are enough differences to make me stop & ask.

I didn't know the chest feathers could make that much of a change during molting...thanks for that tip bev!

I apologize for raising a ruckus! 

[Dumpsterkitty]

[MAK]

OK...last post on the topic...I made a collage with yesterday on the left & June 30 on the right.



I think you can see where there are enough differences to make me stop & ask.

I didn't know the chest feathers could make that much of a change during molting...thanks for that tip bev!

I apologize for raising a ruckus! 

No harm,no foul Ei! We've all made plenty of mistakes when it comes to naming what bird we are looking at. It had me fooled for a while too! 

[carly]

Poor DotCA, he does look a bit rough doesn't he?  He's still got the same 'deer in the headlights' look his dad sports though so easy for me to recognize him  

Both DC and Beauty have a heavy strain of Anatum falcon in them as is evidenced by their salmon coloring which is unique to that sub-species.  Beauty in fact can be traced back through her parents to one of the females that was originally part of the falcon release program here in Canada.  I think her coloring is gorgeous especially in the morning light  

There are many different sub-species of pefa but Anatum's are in my opinion the most beautiful. The web cams don't do the coloring justice, it's really quite stunning and very special to see now a days due to the cross breeding of species over the years.

There are a lot of falcon purists that don't support the cross breeding that was done - they consider it a pollution of the original North American falcon genes (the Anatum) and over the years many old time birders that came to visit our site were stunned to see Angel's salmon coloring because they feared that the Anatums had gone extinct or had that feature bred out of them.  I don't know enough about falcon genetics to really have an opinion on this other than what I've read but Rochester having Beauty here is very special and given DC's Anatum strain, little Orion is made even more special genetically speaking at least.

[Kris G.]

Poor DotCA, he does look a bit rough doesn't he?  He's still got the same 'deer in the headlights' look his dad sports though so easy for me to recognize him  

Both DC and Beauty have a heavy strain of Anatum falcon in them as is evidenced by their salmon coloring which is unique to that sub-species.  Beauty in fact can be traced back through her parents to one of the females that was originally part of the falcon release program here in Canada.  I think her coloring is gorgeous especially in the morning light  

There are many different sub-species of pefa but Anatum's are in my opinion the most beautiful. The web cams don't do the coloring justice, it's really quite stunning and very special to see now a days due to the cross breeding of species over the years.

There are a lot of falcon purists that don't support the cross breeding that was done - they consider it a pollution of the original North American falcon genes (the Anatum) and over the years many old time birders that came to visit our site were stunned to see Angel's salmon coloring because they feared that the Anatums had gone extinct or had that feature bred out of them.  I don't know enough about falcon genetics to really have an opinion on this other than what I've read but Rochester having Beauty here is very special and given DC's Anatum strain, little Orion is made even more special genetically speaking at least.

Thanks for explaining this about Anatums!  Beauty is beautiful-love her coloring and ang with DC's genes, Orion is and will be gorgeous!

[Donna]

Very interesting Carly, thanks. I love the Salmon coloring and hope little Orion has the same. DC is so white in the Spring and Summer and his chest in the sun is pure glare! Amazing the simple changes that confuse us! 

[Dumpsterkitty]

There are a lot of falcon purists that don't support the cross breeding that was done - they consider it a pollution of the original North American falcon genes (the Anatum)

I have to wonder if they would have been happier to have "pure" genetics in the only anatums left in the natural history museum along side the passenger pigeon.

As I understand it there were so few anatums left there would have been far too much close relative interbreeding to restore a healthy population.  I believe most captive bred birds were from a very few ancestors. And we can see that the anatum traits are still strong. Time will tell if it becomes more prevalent.

Now the cross breeding between peregrines & gyrfalcons is another issue altogether...

[carly]

I've never seen any salmon coloring on Jack, which doesn't mean he doesn't have it somewhere but with no cam for several years now I pretty much see him only from the ground and he always looks 'teflon white' to me.  It will be interesting when the cam comes back to look at his features in more detail now that I know a bit more about the different sub species.

I was surprised, happily so, to see DC has some salmon coloring.  I just assumed he was like Jack.  So a very pleasant surprise to say the least!  

[carly]

There are a lot of falcon purists that don't support the cross breeding that was done - they consider it a pollution of the original North American falcon genes (the Anatum)

I have to wonder if they would have been happier to have "pure" genetics in the only anatums left in the natural history museum along side the passenger pigeon.

As I understand it there were so few anatums left there would have been far too much close relative interbreeding to restore a healthy population.  I believe most captive bred birds were from a very few ancestors. And we can see that the anatum traits are still strong. Time will tell if it becomes more prevalent.

Now the cross breeding between peregrines & gyrfalcons is another issue altogether...

Excellent rebuttal kitty! 

[Dumpsterkitty]

Glowz the spider has been busy!

[Donna]

  Beauty on FCT, no Orion or DC yet. DC was apparently at BS this am.

[Donna]

(movie) she moved into the metal more

[Dumpsterkitty]

  Beauty on FCT, no Orion or DC yet. DC was apparently at BS this am.

Sigh! Had a feeling we were going to be seeing less of the little guy soon. He's been getting more independent every day.

[Kris G.]

  Beauty on FCT, no Orion or DC yet. DC was apparently at BS this am.

Sigh! Had a feeling we were going to be seeing less of the little guy soon. He's been getting more independent every day.

Seems way too soon for him to leave.  According to Froona, they start leaving 8-12 weeks after fledging and it's just shy of 6 weeks since Orion fledged plus they were still giving him food up until a couple days ago. Of course, there's always the rule breaker!

[Donna]

I'm sure he's out playing, he'll be back.